Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

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    This thread ISN'T about TANKS.
     
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    Dessert storm, yum :p
     
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    Medical supplies
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    You got a big scope for a 3moa gun:D
     
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    Can anyone tell me if the Chinese peacekeeper troops in Sudan have hard body armour?
     
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    They look like this:

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    So I’d say they’re protected in line with how other PLA troops in high risk zones are.

    I’m not sure what you mean about “hard” armor. AFAIK everyone makes armor out of ceramic, I don’t think China is any different, although I remember an article some time ago describing how it would take multiple shots to defeat, which suggests steel instead of ceramic.
     
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    Modern ceramics ballistics plates are also rated for repeated hits.

    In terms of body armour, PLA peacekeeping troops in Sudan are pretty much top of the line. In addition to standard plates and soft armour, they also have additional soft armour for the neck, groin and shoulders, which you don’t see as standard even with most western troops.
     
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    There are two types of body armor in the modern era.
    Hard plate is used to protect against rifle calibers.
    Soft armor is used to protect against fragmentation and low velocity projectiles.
    Modern armor uses some degree of both.
     
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    Actually Wolf most western also have access to additional armor but it's normally not needed or for that matter wanted.

    Uparmoring soldiers comes at a cost the more up armored the more weight the more restrictions.
    The Neck for example. That seems like a good idea until you try and go prone. The helmet cut and neck both restrict ability to turn the head and angle it. Forcing the "Batman neck" where in you can only face forward.
    This and the heat trapped in thr helmet are part of the reason why helmets got smaller and collars became less prevalent.
    The Groin area also at first seems like a huge weakspot but uparmoring around it causes issues with movement of the legs, discomfort and when in vehicles often cuts off circulation in the legs. So the soldier wadles like a penguin which is fine for moving to the door of a aircraft but not so much when in a firefight.
    Western armor makers have tried to make the more modern versions lower profile without the large Kevlar loin cloth.
    Shoulders another area that can cause issues as it effects movement of the shoulder ability to shoulder the weapon of use other weapons like say throwing a grenade.
    Much of these issues have cause restrictions in who uses such accessory armor.
    The collar, shoulder pads for example make more sense for a machine gunner on a Humvee than General infantry.
    Western armies have adopted a use as needed approach. If it's just say to day ops in low threat leave it. If the commander feels the need then add it. This has lead to Modular and scalable to be used for armor more and more.
    Sure you could armor up like the Mechellin man. But you move like him to. Try to clear a obstacle course in all that and the laughs never stop.
     
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    They probably just look like that when deploying, since they need to carry the full kit in case it’s needed later on.

    While actually moving around in Sudan, they’ll just bring the parts they need.

    The biggest difference between them and the western troops might be that bringing the additional parts is an option. That said, I think higher end western militaries (like US) also has the option open.

    I’ve heard that in the event of hostilities with the US, both armies would go to war without wearing ballistic armor at all, since it would only slow them down and anyone hit would be dead anyways. May just be a rumor though
     
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