Indian, Russian forces to conduct joint exercise

IDonT

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Malizia said:
China-Pakistan-Myanmar-Bengladesh-Iran-India-Russia VS USA ? :eek:
Hmmm....It should be a possible axis against USA and Japan
But the key in Asia-Pacific is the the "ambigious" relation between Pak and USA.... ;)
The regional negociations for oil and gaz pipelines from Iran and Turkmenistan to Afghanistan,Pak,India,Bengladesh and China (via the "chinese" Gwadar port in Pak) + oil pipeline from Myanmar to India and China are good facts...
Tu-22 Backfire, SU-30 and Akula are not so far too... :cool:


Pakistan will never be allied with India.
Bangladesh and Myanmar cannot contribute anything of significance.
IRan is on the ropes.

The 3 regional powers aside from Europe is China, India, and Russia.
 

FreeAsia2000

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IDonT said:
Pakistan will never be allied with India.
Bangladesh and Myanmar cannot contribute anything of significance.
IRan is on the ropes.

The 3 regional powers aside from Europe is China, India, and Russia.

Iran is on the ropes ...?!

errm they've made the French (usually French hatred of all Muslims)
back off pretty quick from their threats to do xyz to Iran.

In order to be allied to India Pakistan needs to be strong
enough to resist India.

That will never happen whilst american dictators control Pakistan
 

IDonT

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FreeAsia2000 said:
Iran is on the ropes ...?!

errm they've made the French (usually French hatred of all Muslims)
back off pretty quick from their threats to do xyz to Iran.

In order to be allied to India Pakistan needs to be strong
enough to resist India.

That will never happen whilst american dictators control Pakistan

Compare Iran's military and political standing to that of Pakistan, India, China, and Russia. Iran right now is politically underseige by Europe and the US.
 

Malizia

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Re: Pakistan will never be allied with Indian.

IDonT said:
Pakistan will never be allied with Indian.
Bangladesh and Myanmar cannot contribute anything of significance.
IRan is on the ropes.

The 3 regional powers aside from Europe is China, India, and Russia.

1. Bengladesh and Myanmar (like Pak) could offer chinese naval access in Indian Ocean (Chittacong and others ports) like Gwadar in Pakistan coastline.
2. Myanmar has big oil reserve (French Total and others wester companies + chinese oil Cies) and pipeline toward southern China is a significative project in these days.
3. Myanmar proposes to build a pipeline toward India VIA bengladesh territory.
4. These 2 minor states are important for the regional evolution because they could be a valuable link between China and India, like Pakistan between Iran and India.
5. Pakistan (since Musharraf) and India (since Singh... ;) ) are very active in oil/gaz projects with Iran and Turkmenistan + Afghanistan (to re-activate the "Unocal project"). Remember Oil/gaz links in History are often "peacemaker links" (the recent Russian-Japanese oil link near Vladivostok and Nakhodka could be a good exemple) because they are physic and permament "silk roads".
6. Pakistan is a chinese ally (with the ambigious us-pak partenership ! ;) ) and Iran is the new good friend of Russia and China (see the actual nuclear dialogue). Iran is important for India because of its oil and gaz exports....
China wants create an "alternative axis" with states members of the "Axis of Evil and Co." : Venezuela, Iran, Myanmar, Angola and Soudan (Petro-gaz States !!!!) + Bengladesh, Pakistan and Nepal in South Asia + Thailand in the way to "contain" the rise of strategic Vietnam-US good relations + Brazil which is not a good friend of GW Bush's Government + Ouzbekistan (and perhaps Tadjikistan and Kirghizstan in the future).
China (Russia helps it !) tries to keep India "cool and sweety". The new "partnership" with USA is too recent to be permanent and stable.
Hot Peace (or "friendship neutrality") between India and Pak is better for them than Nuclear and Terrorist Cold War (Cachemire, Kargil and Nukes), especially in Energy needs...
 

FreeAsia2000

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Re: Pakistan will never be allied with Indian.

Malizia said:
1. Bengladesh and Myanmar (like Pak) could offer chinese naval access in Indian Ocean (Chittacong and others ports) like Gwadar in Pakistan coastline.
2. Myanmar has big oil reserve (French Total and others wester companies + chinese oil Cies) and pipeline toward southern China is a significative project in these days.
3. Myanmar proposes to build a pipeline toward India VIA bengladesh territory.
4. These 2 minor states are important for the regional evolution because they could be a valuable link between China and India, like Pakistan between Iran and India.
5. Pakistan (since Musharraf) and India (since Singh... ;) ) are very active in oil/gaz projects with Iran and Turkmenistan + Afghanistan (to re-activate the "Unocal project"). Remember Oil/gaz links in History are often "peacemaker links" (the recent Russian-Japanese oil link near Vladivostok and Nakhodka could be a good exemple) because they are physic and permament "silk roads".
6. Pakistan is a chinese ally (with the ambigious us-pak partenership ! ;) ) and Iran is the new good friend of Russia and China (see the actual nuclear dialogue). Iran is important for India because of its oil and gaz exports....
China wants create an "alternative axis" with states members of the "Axis of Evil and Co." : Venezuela, Iran, Myanmar, Angola and Soudan (Petro-gaz States !!!!) + Bengladesh, Pakistan and Nepal in South Asia + Thailand in the way to "contain" the rise of strategic Vietnam-US good relations + Brazil which is not a good friend of GW Bush's Government + Ouzbekistan (and perhaps Tadjikistan and Kirghizstan in the future).
China (Russia helps it !) tries to keep India "cool and sweety". The new "partnership" with USA is too recent to be permanent and stable.
Hot Peace (or "friendship neutrality") between India and Pak is better for them than Nuclear and Terrorist Cold War (Cachemire, Kargil and Nukes), especially in Energy needs...


Malizia good article
 

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Are you sure French hatred of all Muslims ??? :confused:
I'm French and I know this subject !
With more 3 millions of Muslims between 60 millions of citizen and Muslims in all the State Services (Army, Police, Hospitals, Teachers, Mail, etc.)... i'm not sure Muslims are hatred in France (except, racist people, the radical rights movements or radical jews movements like Jewish Defense League, French Likud and Betar as well.... :cool: ). More, between radical movements you can find lots of Muslims and Jews members...
France has very good relations with muslim countries, including Syria despite Liban crisis...
Do French people hate Muslims ? I don't think so...
One question : Do US people hate Muslims after 09/11 ??? Perhaps (including Saudis... ;) )
 
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