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SteelBird

Colonel
The Advanced super Hornet would be an EXCELLENT choice for the INdian Navy for its CATOBAR carrier.

Good proce, excellent range, GREAT armament capabilites, and it would be a 4++ ge aircraft batter than anything else they have...with the exception of the few Rafales they are getting which they would measure up very well against.
India doesn't own a CATOBAR carrier currently, and there is no indication that it will own one soon. To me, there are only two options for them; the Rafael and MiG-29K. And if India want to move away from Russia, there's only one choice left.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
The Advanced super Hornet would be an EXCELLENT choice for the INdian Navy for its CATOBAR carrier.

Good proce, excellent range, GREAT armament capabilites, and it would be a 4++ ge aircraft batter than anything else they have...with the exception of the few Rafales they are getting which they would measure up very well against.

As much as I like to see them purchase the superbugs since it directly affects my city and 'other' interests, I think it would be a mistake which India may regret later.
Best case scenario INS Vishal will not materialized until early 2030s at the earliest and knowing how Indian politics and military projects goes especially one as large and ambitious as a full deck carier, I'm betting it will be even later than that.
Also I don't want India to screw with Boeing like they did DAssault with the Rafale and the ridiculous contracts renegotiations and fickleness of their politicians!
If they want to buy them now w/o any platform to carry them for at least another 15 yrs by all means.. more than happy to take their $$$ but unfortunately that's not the case.

This is just my personal opinion of course and not intended to be taken as cold hard fact or offense to anyone!
 

timepass

Brigadier
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>>> India on Sunday successfully test fired its first all weather tracked-chassis Quick Reaction Surface-to-Air Missile (QR-SAM) with range of more than 30km.

The missile was launched from a mobile launcher in the Integrated Test Range (ITR) off Odisha coast at Chandipur at around 12:39 p.m. local time.The test was carried out for validating various parameters of the sophisticated weapon system to further strengthen its air defence system.
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Jeff Head

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As much as I like to see them purchase the superbugs since it directly affects my city and 'other' interests, I think it would be a mistake which India may regret later.
Best case scenario INS Vishal will not materialized until early 2030s at the earliest and knowing how Indian politics and military projects goes especially one as large and ambitious as a full deck carier, I'm betting it will be even later than that.
Also I don't want India to screw with Boeing like they did DAssault with the Rafale and the ridiculous contracts renegotiations and fickleness of their politicians!
If they want to buy them now w/o any platform to carry them for at least another 15 yrs by all means.. more than happy to take their $$$ but unfortunately that's not the case.

This is just my personal opinion of course and not intended to be taken as cold hard fact or offense to anyone!
The only reason for INdia o buy them IMHO would be for their CATOBAR carrier.

If they are going to have that pushed out tTHAT long, there would be no sense buying them.

Perhaps for a stop gap, because that aircraft would rival there other options all around...and for a lot less.

Anyhow, we shall see.

The Indians desperately need to get help in program management and logistical issues.
 

Jeff Head

General
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India doesn't own a CATOBAR carrier currently, and there is no indication that it will own one soon. To me, there are only two options for them; the Rafael and MiG-29K. And if India want to move away from Russia, there's only one choice left.
For their STBAR carrier, the Mig-29K is a good choice...and for that option, the choice has already been made.

As I said, the CATOBAR carrier would be the principle reason for the Advanced Super Hornet...although Australia is making good use of the Super Hornets and Growlers without a CATOBAR, as will Canada if they go that way...but Canda has made good use of the Hornet.

These aircraft, particularly the Advanced Super Hornet is a GREAT 4++ gen aircraft in its own right, and would be a good addition to India in any case.

What India needs more than anything else, is a lot of help in Program Management and logistics, so that truly large projects and systems can get completed in a timely and qualitative manner.
 

Lethe

Captain
The "Advanced Super Hornet" doesn't exist, it's a proposal awaiting funding (and time, but that doesn't really matter in India's case) from Someone.

You could put together a fairly compelling case for Super Hornet for IAF and IN as part of a big package deal that involves Boeing buying into AMCA (plus a naval variant thereof) and using F414EPE across Tejas, Super Hornet, AMCA. But that involves the kind of big picture coordination, buy-in from all players, and consistent vision and robust funding driven from the very top that is almost impossible to imagine in the Indian context. Absent such an arrangement, Rafale or MiG-29K would be preferable for reasons of commonality alone.
 

balasore

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A bit of advice from China to India "Take care of your economy first before even thinking of building carrier"
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China to unveil aircraft carrier as media takes dig at India's naval power
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Updated: Apr 24, 2017 18:24 IST

Against the backdrop of reports that China’s first domestically built aircraft carrier will be unveiled soon, state media on Monday took a dig at India by saying its first home-grown carrier isn’t even operational and that New Delhi should keep its military ambitions in check.

Reports in the Chinese media said the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Navy was making “final preparations” to launch its first domestically built aircraft carrier to mark the 68th anniversary of the founding of the maritime force, which was on Sunday.

“The scaffolding around the ship, temporarily named the Type 001A, was removed and the deck was cleared,” Shanghai-based news portal thepaper.cn reported, indicating the unveiling is likely to be done soon though it could not happen on Sunday because of low tides.

Reports said it took China about five years to make its own aircraft carrier that it will be inducted into the navy by 2020.

State media took the opportunity to make a few points about the naval capabilities of China and India.

In a piece with the headline “India needs to learn that economic development comes before a naval buildup”, the nationalistic Global Times tabloid said: “Aircraft carriers are seen as symbols of a nation's military might, but the construction of them consumes huge amounts of resources, thus requiring developing countries to learn how to keep their military ambitions in check.”

China had no aircraft carrier till 2012 while India’s first was purchased from Britain in the late 1950s. China’s pursuit of military development has been in “sync” with its overall economic development, the article said. It added China’s priority was developing its economy and then building “resource consuming” aircraft carriers.

“India itself could be taken as a negative example for a buildup of aircraft carriers...New Delhi is perhaps too impatient to develop an aircraft carrier. The country is still in its initial stages of industrialisation and there will be many obstacles that stand in the way of a buildup of aircraft carriers,” the article said.

China would have finished work on an indigenous carrier “several years ago if Beijing had simply wanted to engage in an arms race to have more influence in the Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean regions”, it added.


Meanwhile, Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post said China’s new aircraft carrier has a displacement of 70,000 tonnes, is 315 metres long, 75 metres wide and has a cruising speed of 31 knots.

“It is slightly larger than the Liaoning, China’s first aircraft carrier, which was refurbished from the semi-completed Soviet carrier Varyag, which Beijing bought from a Ukrainian shipyard in 1998,” the report said.

The new carrier has a larger hangar to carry more J-15 fighters and more space on deck for helicopters and other aircraft.

State media has reported China plans to have six aircraft carriers, and the second one to be built domestically is being constructed in Shanghai.

LOL "China would have finished work on an indigenous carrier “several years ago if Beijing had simply wanted to engage in an arms race to have more influence in the Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean regions" - so it took so long to finish liaoning not because china couldnt, but because they simply didnt want to.
 

balasore

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for india, financially, if the choice is between LPDs and carriers, the former should (will) be pushed back. very obvious.

news media in india is a circus show. u have to know what 2 read.

the missile tracking ship was never hush hush. nothing 2 b hush hush about. anyone saying otherwise is clueless.
 
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