How many fighters does China have?

crobato

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Looks good, but as a note, the 33rd Division received 28 Su-27UBKs, some of which were parceled out to other groups in exchange for J-11s.

As a note, there might be 24 J-11s per reg, but on top of that, some of the regs also have 4 Su-27UBKs.
 

FugitiveVisions

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Looks good, but as a note, the 33rd Division received 28 Su-27UBKs, some of which were parceled out to other groups in exchange for J-11s.

As a note, there might be 24 J-11s per reg, but on top of that, some of the regs also have 4 Su-27UBKs.

I just assumed that there are 24 flankers for each regiment, because all the flanker units have 24 shelters, except those for the MKKs. Since a lot of those were newly constructed, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't have shelters for the UBKs.
 

crobato

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I base mainly on the tail numbers and reported units acquired. Some planes may also be rotated on the maintenance hangers and the underground shelters.
 

adeptitus

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J-8IIs have a total of six hardpoints in the wings. You can decide on whatever configuration you want except that the PL-12 or PL-11 isn't used on the outboard pylon. and the PL-8 isn't used on the innermost pylon.

I'm curious about the weapon load-out. I've seen photos where external fuel tanks are mounted on the outer pylon on J-8II. Those fuel tanks appear larger and heavier than MRRAM's. On F-16's it's possible to mount AMRRAM on wingtip. Wouldn't it be theoretically possible to mount PL-12 on the J-8II outer wing pylon?
 

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I thought it would be nice to have a complete, regularly updated list of china's combat plane inventory. Which we could later expand to include non combat planes as well.
Now, I know a lot of things on this list is different from what various newsbits say, mainly which planes are with which regiment, and the list itself is at times selfcontradictory and in part it lacks detail. But one has to start somewhere, so I thought the best place to start is Scramble.nl's china's orbats, as they are updated fairly regularly.

I hope, now that we have this first version, we could modify the list to the newest info and make it more detailed and more up to date.

Comments, suggestions, etc?
 

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I thought it would be nice to have a complete, regularly updated list of china's combat plane inventory. Which we could later expand to include non combat planes as well.
Now, I know a lot of things on this list is different from what various newsbits say, mainly which planes are with which regiment, and the list itself is at times selfcontradictory and in part it lacks detail. But one has to start somewhere, so I thought the best place to start is Scramble.nl's china's orbats, as they are updated fairly regularly.

I hope, now that we have this first version, we could modify the list to the newest info and make it more detailed and more up to date.

Comments, suggestions, etc?

scramble.nl's Chinese orbat in my opinion is by far the best one. A lot of times, we discover a new regiment for J-10 or JH-7A and then I go there only to find that they've already discovered it.
 

Totoro

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You've very recently listed 6 regiments that use j10s, and those regiments are different from the ones scramble is listing. So which ones are the real j10 regiments?

Also, is there any way of pinpointing more precisely the number of jh7 in a regiment?

And are there any sources which would help with h6 numbers, primarely the number of regiments with newer variants: H, G, M, etc. I guesstimated there are 18 h6 per bomber regiment. Is there a source to confirm that or deny it?

Also, is 28 q5 per regiment a fine number? Should it be more? Less?
 

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You've very recently listed 6 regiments that use j10s, and those regiments are different from the ones scramble is listing. So which ones are the real j10 regiments?

Also, is there any way of pinpointing more precisely the number of jh7 in a regiment?

And are there any sources which would help with h6 numbers, primarely the number of regiments with newer variants: H, G, M, etc. I guesstimated there are 18 h6 per bomber regiment. Is there a source to confirm that or deny it?

Also, is 28 q5 per regiment a fine number? Should it be more? Less?

I thought we listed the same ones. I was listing them by their division number, not regiment number.

As for precise numbering with JH-7, I really don't know. The first 2 regiments were around 19 each. And then after that, I use huitong's website to estimate the count for each of the regiments.
 

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Could you tell me how many planes are there in a dadui? Also, what is the smallest official tactical group used by plaaf? I was told USAF, for example, is using 4 plane groups, though, unofficially, those sometimes get broken down to pairs, if tactical situation requires it.

In any case, 19, an odd number, seems quite peculiar for a regiment. There has to be a standard, a number which is the nominal number of jh7 planes in a given regiment.
 

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Could you tell me how many planes are there in a dadui? Also, what is the smallest official tactical group used by plaaf? I was told USAF, for example, is using 4 plane groups, though, unofficially, those sometimes get broken down to pairs, if tactical situation requires it.

In any case, 19, an odd number, seems quite peculiar for a regiment. There has to be a standard, a number which is the nominal number of jh7 planes in a given regiment.

well, I can't really tell you, because I don't know exactly how it works. If you look at Su-30MKK, they got split into 4 regiments, so 19 per regiment. But they got 24 su-30mk2, which went into one regiment.
 
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