Hong-Kong Protests

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    From this angle, it doesn't look as bad as the guardian article
     
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    At the same time the UK can just become a de facto US financial colony. Ironically appropriate that may be what a colonialist such as Boris Johnson oversees.
     
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    The central government is not weakening HK at all, rather as part of China's national and regional development plans HK will have to diversify just as all these other cities and regions have to and the China is making them all more economically resilient. That HK have not prepared itself for this longstanding need is the fault of their own lack of local leadership and vision, as well as the usual obstruction by vested big money interests. The anti-China camp and their rioters in HK are the ones weakening HK by introducing instability that makes for a bad business environment no matter what the major local industries are.
     
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    That ignores the effects of terrorist actions and propaganda by the anti-China camp and its rioters combined with the failures of the HK authorities to safeguard law and order and assert actual authority. The silent majority is as likely to be trying to appease the anti-China camp and its rioters as well as behaving with the slave mentality of "worship those who seem powerful, tread on those who seem weak".
     
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    It is long past due that HK diversify because of a changing world and article 23 should have been in place from the get go for HK to function as a normal part of a bigger country. If these things come to pass HK's future will be much brighter than it has been.
     
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    The central government has prohibited Shenzhen, Macau, and Shanghai from directly competing with HK in many areas. Shenzhen attempted to become a regional hub for air travel has been hindered by lack of support from the central government. Macau has requested to set up a financial center for many years but it is until recently the central government has granted the go ahead. Disneyland would have been first opened in Shanghai if the central government didn't play favorite. The Hong Kong–Zhuhai–Macau Bridge would have been Hong Kong–Zhuhai–Macau-Shenzhen if the HK government didn't play politics and ask favors from the central government.

    I perfectly understand the facts that lack of the leadership in HK government has hindered Hong Kong's development. And it is true that many people in HK have been resisted in integration with the mainland economy. Furthermore, the oppositions have always sabotaged any long term development. That doesn't mean the central government has not been supportive of HK. The truth is that the central government has been very supportive of HK even though HK has been a troublemaker since handover. Not giving preferential status and favors and diversify some of the HK's functions are enough to weaken HK. I don't see it as a way to punish but more like a way to not put all eggs in one basket.
     
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    That is not quite true. Some elements of the powers that be do desire to contain China and prevent it from developing into a more powerful country, all the better if it can be ruined like Iraq or Libya but just as good if it can be bogged down like India or Iran. As others have already mentioned sowing mistrust and rebellion in HK is first to complicate any potential peaceful unification with Taiwan to the point of exacerbating tensions and second serves as a somewhat culturally attuned base to undermine the loyalties of local interests.
     
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    Not sure which bit of my post is "not quite true"?

    I agree with your post, but these are two different things. My post is about foreigners playing politics with China and Hong Kong. And I think yours is the same. So not sure where's the "not quite true" bit?
     
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    The thugs diesn't look so tough once they get arrested! So much for their brave revolutionary image they trying to carve for the world to see!

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