Hong-Kong Protests

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KIENCHIN said:
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They are not Beijing loyalist they are faces of reason, change must come and I am confident it will come but it must come on China’s time table not at someone’s agenda to destroy and weaken her.
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This is typical MSM propaganda. Simply by calling anyone "Beijing loyalist" or "pro-beijing ". It is trying to steer readers in a certain direction. Straight away, readers know this is bad, and "pro-democracy " must be good, right?

I was reading Ho' attempted murder on BBC and ABC news. They both lead with "fake supporter". Which kind of lead readers in a certain direction.

Then they went on to say "knife attack" which is technically correct, but had that happened to a "pro-democracy" politician, or even in the west. You would bet the same news channels will call it murder or assassination attemp!

Further on both BBC and ABC mentioned Chinese news outlet reporting by stating "State media". Blah blah. There was no irony in what they wrote. Now let's see..... hmm. The last I look, both BBC and ABC is state funded..... hmmm. And just because they state that "checks and balances have put in place to ensure independence" blah blah. Doesn't make it so!
 
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This is one ugly (physically as well as mentally) human specimen.
Can't wait till the elections where:
1. The HK Anti-establishment may win with a 60 percent majority (or more).
2. Taiwan elections happen and it would be 50-50 ... But major Social media giants like fb,google etc has pledged to "defend" the elections (by snuffing out pro-mainland voices under the garb of silencing state directed influences). This would probably mean that Tsai gets a second chance.
3. After 1 and 2 ... I don't know BUT the border between HK and Mainland should fall for a change. (IF 1 and 2 becomes a sad reality.)
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I know I shouldn't, but I'm human after all. Yes, that's one ugly brute! He actually scare me as he reminds me of my childhood days reading all those cartoons. All the guards of the underword look just like that!
 
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I hate to see this, But I've seen conflict between Chinese students from mainland and Hing Kong spreading to OZ, NZ, Germany, UK Canada,.and the USA.

But it could all be avoided if those stupid Hong Kong students stop coming out and brining their politics to a foreign land with twi purposes in mind. To illicit support from foreigners and antagonis mailand Chinese students!

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Gatekeeper said:
This is typical MSM propaganda. Simply by calling anyone "Beijing loyalist" or "pro-beijing ". It is trying to steer readers in a certain direction. Straight away, readers know this is bad, and "pro-democracy " must be good, right?

I was reading Ho' attempted murder on BBC and ABC news. They both lead with "fake supporter". Which kind of lead readers in a certain direction.

Then they went on to say "knife attack" which is technically correct, but had that happened to a "pro-democracy" politician, or even in the west. You would bet the same news channels will call it murder or assassination attemp!

Further on both BBC and ABC mentioned Chinese news outlet reporting by stating "State media". Blah blah. There was no irony in what they wrote. Now let's see..... hmm. The last I look, both BBC and ABC is state funded..... hmmm. And just because they state that "checks and balances have put in place to ensure independence" blah blah. Doesn't make it so!
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Do not fret. It is a good thing that these MSMs can do the literary gymnastics with the English Language.They have acquired the art of delivering "news" over a century of experience. They have to their credit successfully led the Anglo-sphere on its endeavors from World War 1 through WW2,Cold War,Vietnam war,War on Terror and the Middle Eastern Adventures. Imagine if they had the same skill with the Chinese languages !! China has maintained a National language policy and successfully withstood the assault of English. The problem is - Once you get to know English and have a good hold on it, you are going to be under immense influence from these Neo-propaganda sources.
It is far tougher to deploy the MSM tools in China due to this. But, it isn't impossible.
An English speaking HK is therefore very prone to the machinations of Foreign Interests.
 
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Why do those HK students feel the need to where a mask on foreign campus?
There dpes not seem to be much opf a reaction by the white students though.
 
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B.I.B. said:
Why do those HK students feel the need to where a mask on foreign campus?
There dpes not seem to be much opf a reaction by the white students though.
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Its a foreign campus--they can do whatever they want. If the Chinese students really love their motherland, no need for worry. Many will silently disagree and carry on. Those who never had that love will easily fall prey. Those who don't will try to complete their studies there and go back to their so called "authoritarian" "oppressive" "communist" "genocidal" country to contribute ever more vigorously to its development and strength.
 
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in the meantime
Junius Ho attack: man arrested after Hong Kong lawmaker wounded campaigning in Tuen Mun
  • Stabbing of pro-establishment lawmaker, which left four injured including suspect, triggers speculation over whether district council elections will be postponed
  • Ho says he will undergo surgery for knife injury to chest on ‘dark day’ proving order has been lost

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footage available through CGTN:
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now I've read the followup story
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and didn't like it:

the SCMP journos should've concentrated on what happened that is an assassination attempt
 
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The SCMP is tactically jumping between Pro-Beijing and Pro-Rioter viewpoints. It is trying its best to stave off readers flowing to sources like Apple Daily and HKFP and other pro protester sites. Last week itself, I realized that Scmp was very anti-rioter in coverage. Do also consider the impact of 'Opinion pieces' along with news. Most of the Opinion pieces have been anti-rioter and anti-violence.
So, even if the "news" may not be as anti-protester as I'd like... SCMP is taking quite a number of discreet steps to maintain a modest anti-rioter narrative. Very extreme reporting will only lead to permanent lose of readership or labelling.
 
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One more thing is that Chinese media representative are so bad at public speaking and debate in western media. I don't know if MSM deliberately bring guest who can't speak proper english or who ever eager to represent china in these media are really bad at english and purely bad at art of public speaking. It pains me to see the Huawei customer Business group CEO Richard Yu always doing press conference or new product release. I can babrely understand what he is trying to say for most of the time. Why can't they just allow a good looking person or atleast some1 who can talk English fluently and try to do a good marketing show. It's really beyond me.
 
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