Hong-Kong Protests

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The mosque is South Asian (Indian). Also, the people of Chungking Mansions are predominantly Indian. That means - hate China. No, But really...Indians do hate China a lot for its bonhomie with Pakistan and the 1962 war. My brief stay at defence.pk was really a rollercoaster ride. :)

Mosques are Muslim. South Asian also includes Pakistani or Bangladeshi who are majority Muslim, India is minority Muslim but that's still a lot of people. There are plenty of Pakistanis in the Chungking Mansions.
 

Nutrient

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You have things ass backwards. The government leads the people; it doesn't wait for cues of encouragement from them to determine how to act.

The central government appears to disagree with you; that is why it allows (and almost seems to encourage) the 100,000 protests each year in the mainland. Sometimes the government leads, and sometimes the people need to say what they want first. This is especially true for Hong Kong, which has fewer connections to Beijing than the country's other areas have.

It's not like I'm asking for much: a peaceful march but in large numbers, large enough for the people involved to protect each other from the violent thugs -- and large enough to show Beijing their strength.

If the patriotic Hong Kongers are too cowardly to do that (even in large numbers, where they should be safe), then why should Beijing take risks for them?
 
The central government appears to disagree with you; that is why it allows (and almost seems to encourage) the 100,000 protests each year in the mainland. Sometimes the government leads, and sometimes the people need to say what they want first. This is especially true for Hong Kong, which has fewer connections to Beijing than the country's other areas have.

It's not like I'm asking for much: a peaceful march but in large numbers, large enough for the people involved to protect each other from the violent thugs -- and large enough to show Beijing their strength.

If the patriotic Hong Kongers are too cowardly to do that (even in large numbers, where they should be safe), then why should Beijing take risks for them?
would you describe some of your "100,000 protests each year in the mainland"
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(several years ago I noticed about some veterans' protests -- don't know what's their fate -- and don't know about any other)
 
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Hong Kong protests: is there a silent majority yearning to speak out but intimidated by violence?
  • Constant demonstrations and anti-police graffiti have become pervasive in the city, drowning out criticism of the recent movement
  • Residents writing to the Post say they feel silenced by the dominant pro-protest narrative

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MrCrazyBoyRavi

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Mosques are Muslim. South Asian also includes Pakistani or Bangladeshi who are majority Muslim, India is minority Muslim but that's still a lot of people. There are plenty of Pakistanis in the Chungking Mansions.
Chunking reminds me of chunking express . One of the best hongkong movie starring tony leung. So sad HKengers are fighting for loosing cause. Why don’t they realize there in no win either for hongkong nor for china. Although not an appropriate analogy but just like a prey stuck in anaconda’s mouth . The more prey struggles , the more teeth sinks deeper, and gets swallowed whole.
 

Xizor

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Btw this thread officially became Jura vs Chinese thread. Jura should stop provoking other users by sharing MSM news and engaging in stupid arguements.
I don't think Jura is doing anything objectively wrong. He is free to voice his opinion in a civilized manner. But the way he formats his posts - the font size, straight up copy pasting news articles, little to no commentary etc is not conductive. He has his own political and ideological views. It is welcome. No need for this place to be an echo chamber.
 

manqiangrexue

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The central government appears to disagree with you; that is why it allows (and almost seems to encourage) the 100,000 protests each year in the mainland. Sometimes the government leads, and sometimes the people need to say what they want first. This is especially true for Hong Kong, which has fewer connections to Beijing than the country's other areas have.
No, it does not disagree with me; when the hell has Beijing ever acted based on encouragement from a mob or protest? The government leads the people; if it doesn't know what to do until the people show it encouragement, that government needs to disband and step aside for a real government that can make decisions and take the lead. Zhongnanhai does not wait for anybody or bend to anybody's will. Even if the people in Hong Kong all decide they want to secede, Beijing will still not allow it. Your story of a government in China timidly waiting for the people to give it a cue to proceed is entirely in your imagination.
It's not like I'm asking for much: a peaceful march but in large numbers, large enough for the people involved to protect each other from the violent thugs -- and large enough to show Beijing their strength.
If that's all you're asking for then stop asking. You've already gotten it. If you didn't know that, then you need to spend more time following events and less time blaming your own teammates and asking me the same questions that I've already answered as if it becomes more reasonable each time you ask.

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"I am proud": pro-Beijing groups rally in Hong Kong
Sunday, September 29, 2019 - 01:11

Pro-China demonstrators gathered at Hong Kong landmarks on Sunday ahead of China's National Day on October 1. Rough Cut (no reporter narration)

If the patriotic Hong Kongers are too cowardly to do that (even in large numbers, where they should be safe), then why should Beijing take risks for them?
Because you can't read. This is at least the 3rd time you've asked this question and I've answered it the same way every time. Go reread my last posts to you.
 

dratsabknihcllik

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Guys do you know about the grave situation in Chile?
In a few days there have been 8 deaths. It's pretty dangerous in Santiago now.
However, I request that you guys read articles by major Western news outlets. The current Chilean president was touted as a saviour and he was a neo-liberal hero.
 
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