Hong-Kong Protests

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    I can't find Supersnoop's post to reply to so I sort of having to hitchhike on yours.

    I think he's in danger of overgeneralizing Overseas Chinese by his reference to "pro-democracy" supporters of overseas local-born Chinese millennials.

    The ethnic Chinese in South East Asia have a long history of immigration to the region stretching back to 600 years (The time of Zheng He voyages) and still retain their Chinese culture and language. I believe this is also true to some extent in some western countries although to a lesser degree in terms of population. As opposed to most western countries, there is very little recent immigration from China to SE Asia in the modern era.

    Perhaps a line should be drawn on the supporters on both sides (in Vancouver, I haven't heard of any demonstration in relation to HK in Asian countries) between those who immigrated from HK for political reasons in the first place and those who immigrated from China and HK for reasons other than political.
     
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    the article is based on interviews of several individuals who said they felt uncomfortable; the story of the last interviewee in the article is ironic:
    Meet the mainland Chinese who are living in fear in Hong Kong
    • Recent immigrants to the city say they are becoming increasingly anxious after seeing a protest against an extradition bill mutate into a violent campaign against all things Chinese
    • In a city where Cantonese is the local language, Mandarin speakers say they are keeping quiet in public and even telling their children to speak English to avoid being targeted

    follow the link https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...ainland-chinese-who-are-living-fear-hong-kong if interested
     
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    the article mentions, thrice, "deterrent effect" of so called anti-mask law, and also comments on events related to Yesterday at 7:47 AM
    so follow the link
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1166198.shtml
    if interested
     
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    There's no "trick", Beijing is simply waiting for the right time to intervene.

    I think Beijing is waiting for a sign, something that shows HK *wants* help from the Central Government. So far, I have seen no such sign.
     
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    NBA says it backs free speech after Hong Kong tweet furore, downplays Chinese-language statement

    https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/...-furore-downplays-chinese-language-statement/


    Edited for non-relevant article, and also obnoxious formatting.
     
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    Lil' bit desperate there for anti-Chinese news there, aren't we?
     
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    To those Americans that are watching it with a smugness or sense of achievement. You will get yours in due time.
     
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    Funny he posts the NBA article
    From the Article, Adam Silver, NBA commissioner said:
    “I accept that it is also (the) Chinese government’s and Chinese businesses’ right to react to those words and, at least from my long-time experience in the NBA, it will take some time to heal some of these issues.”

    Free speech works both ways. Silver has it right, Daryl Morey can say what he wants, Chinese businesses can do what they want. Read the article, the typical American media/politician quotes are almost comical in their hypocrisy. Remember Freedom Fries? Marco Rubio doesn't... Remember Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher? He doesn't remember that either. Anyway, too much of that is OT and unrelated to HK.

    Meanwhile, no one mentions this:
    https://www.asiaone.com/asia/hong-k...vices-after-attack-mainland-china-bound-train

    Pretty much would be classified as a Hate Crime/Terrorist act in most countries

    Enroger is right, USA is the master of media manipulation. That being said, I don't think it is simply direct control. Just like the NBA, large English language media outlets cater to a mostly western audience. Since they operate in a capitalist fashion, they print stories that they can sell to this audience. Look at the survey results from earlier posts, places like USA/Canada have an under 40% favourable opinion of China. Why produce a positive story about China if no one wants to read it?
     
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