Hong-Kong Protests

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  1. Pika
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    Since we can't discussions on 'Breaking & World News' thread, we compile all HK info and discussions here.
     
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    'but how many people are actually partecipating in hong kong protests (riots)? What are they demanding apart from "freedom"?
     
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    Wait, isn't the HK riots topic banned?
     
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    Yeah this thread might be deleted since I just learned there no political discussions here.
     
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    Well as long as you don't bash a country or making outright political statement or endless discussion. I don't see what is wrong with posting news Here is the latest
    https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/chinese-military-personnel-near-hong-kong-border/
    Well this time around might be different because China now has PAP which is trained and equipped to handle riot which is not the case in 89 back then there is no PAP and the PLA is not trained or equipped to handle riot resulting in tragedy

    Chinese military personnel near Hong Kong border
    Ambassador in London says China prepared to intervene ‘if things get worse’; troops 7km from border

    ByJIMMY YEE

    Thousands of Chinese military personnel waving red flags paraded at a sports stadium in a city across the border from Hong Kong on Thursday.

    Armored vehicles were also seen inside the stadium in Shenzhen, as concerns build that China may intervene to end more than 10 weeks of unrest in Hong Kong.

    Indeed, China’s ambassador in London warned several hours later that Beijing was ready to intervene if the crisis gets worse.


    “Should the situation in Hong Kong deteriorate further… the central government will not sit on its hands and watch,” Ambassador Liu Xiaoming said at a news conference in the UK. “We have enough solutions and enough power within the limits of Basic Law to quell any unrest swiftly. Their moves are severe and violent offenses, and already shows signs of terrorism.”

    China’s state-run media reported this week that the elements of the People’s Armed Police (PAP), which is under the command of the Central Military Commission, were assembling in Shenzhen.

    Some of the personnel inside the stadium on Thursday had armed police insignias on their camouflage fatigues, according to an AFP reporter.

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    Trucks and armored personnel carriers are seen outside the Shenzhen Bay Stadium in Shenzhen, bordering Hong Kong in China’s southern Guangdong province, on August 15, 2019. Photo: AFP
    The security forces could be seen moving in formation inside the stadium and occasionally running, while others rode around outside on motorbikes.

    Outside the stadium – which is around seven kilometers from Hong Kong – there were also dozens of trucks and armored personnel carriers.

    “I don’t know why they’re here, but it could be related to Hong Kong,” a ticket vendor at the stadium said.


    The People’s Daily and Global Times, two of the most powerful state-run media outlets, published videos on Monday of what it said was the PAP assembling in Shenzhen.

    The Global Times editor-in-chief, Hu Xijin, said the military presence in Shenzhen was a sign that China was prepared to intervene in Hong Kong.

    “If they do not pull back from the cliff and continue to push the situation further beyond the critical point, the power of the state may come to Hong Kong at any time,” Hu wrote.

    US President Donald Trump also said Tuesday American intelligence had confirmed Chinese troop movements toward the Hong Kong border.

    “I hope it works out for everybody including China. I hope it works out peacefully, nobody gets hurt, nobody gets killed,” Trump said.

    ‘Public order’
    Pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong, a semi-autonomous Chinese city, have staged 10 weeks of relentless protests to demand greater rights and liberties.


    The Asian financial hub has been governed under a “one country, two systems” legal framework since its handover to China from Britain in 1997.

    Hong Kong allows far greater civil liberties than those on the mainland, but the protesters say those freedoms are eroding as mainland Chinese interference grows.

    The protests, which have become increasingly violent and led to Hong Kong’s airport being paralyzed for two days this week, have become the biggest threat to China’s rule since the handover.

    The Chinese military has not interfered in Hong Kong since the handover but it can should it be called on by the city’s government to maintain “public order.”

    James Char, a military expert at Singapore’s Nanyang Technological University, said the deployment to Shenzhen was both to project an image of domestic strength as well as “a carefully calculated message to the protesters to think twice about growing or continuing with their recent intensified demonstrations.”

    “We can be certain the regime understands that sending in troops to Hong Kong will inflame the protests and the protesters’ anti-China grievances,” he said.

    The PAP are in charge of “handling riots, turmoil, seriously violent, criminal activities, terrorist attacks and other societal security incidents”, the People’s Daily said in text accompanying its video on Monday.

    Chinese authorities have on two occasions this week linked violent protests in Hong Kong to “terrorism”. They have consistently described protesters as “rioters”.
     
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    Please read the rules before you post.
     
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    Don't worry. I won't cause trouble and I don't post much. Just observing.
     
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    So many Trucks and APC, they look like toys from a distance.
     
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    The HKPF seems to have things pretty well in hand, why bother the PAP?
     
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    Just in case. It makes senses from Operational Point of view. Staging the PAP 25 miles nearby in case HK authorities declares an emergency.

    Plus whenever troops (anywhere from around the world) are forced to mobilize, that mobilization alone serves as a form of training for those forces.
     
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