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KYli

Brigadier
It is not about the value of concession but how she asked it. She threatened on a lot of things that should earn her the VDL treatment but not only did that not happen she earned a official promise. Even though China made it clear weapon deal between two sovriegn nation is none of their god damn business.

Just what did she do that earned so much respect both in level of reception and diplomatic gurantee? I wish there are something we dont know that happened. If we took everything at surface level it would be a disaster.
Annalena Baerbock is a typical Western politician that always talk about values. She trash-talked a lot of BS but she didn't get to meet anyone important. As we all knew, she is from Green Party which is fundamentally supported by the US to cripple the German. German is leaderless at the moment. All German parties want to act tough against Russia and China. None of them are rational. However, German has not done anything to agitate China as some others did. Trash talking is disrespectful but it is rhetoric..

Remember how Merkel acted tough when she first came to power. China just ignored her until she has become more mature enough to understand world politics and German's national interests. After that, Merkel has re-markedly served German well and also maintained good good relationship with both Russia and China.

China is giving Annalena Baerbock and especially the ruling German coalition the benefit of doubt. If these politicians are wise enough, then it is mutually beneficial for China and EU to cooperate or at least maintain a friendly environment. If not and German acted stupid, then the UK Brexit and Japan lost decades are the prime example of moronic leaders that destroyed their countries because they want to throw a tantrum and forgot the responsibilities to serve their countries first not serving the US first.

China is building a new world and new coalition to decouple from the US and Dollars. EU doesn't need to join them but they might need to think wisely from being see as just a junior partner or even vassals of the US. If other countries see EU that way, then EU is done such as Japan was done as nobody gives a damn about what Japan said after Asian Financial Crisis no matter how much money Japan throw at them.
 

pmc

Colonel
Registered Member
However, selling fully assembled weapons would negatively affect Russian defense industries; not exactly a Win-Win scenario.
I am sure Chinese AWACS can make a difference but that will invite severe sanctions. it wont impact any of Russian defense industry. its myth that Russia does not want to import stuff that most likely disposable like drones, rockets and shells.
Russia is working on how to remove those 1300 Airbus/Boeing/Bombardier/Embraer from its fleet and than you add large Civilian chopper fleet expansion. see the 5,000 engine order in air transport context up to year 2030. and this does not include replacing engines on those 250 SSJ as they are trying to built parts to operate it. this is scale of effort needed to be independent of West.
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The program for the development of the air transport industry poses a large number of tasks for us. Until 2030, Rostec enterprises must supply the country with more than 500 aircraft, at least 750 helicopters, and almost 5,000 aircraft engines.
 

gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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My speculation: the US goal with these "leaks" is to discredit Russia. The US wants to show neutral and Russia-friendly countries that Russia can absolutely not be trusted because Russian intelligence is compromised with moles. In this way, the US hopes to isolate Russia in Africa (leak Egypt, denied), the Middle East (leak the UAE, denied), Asia (leak China, denied), Europe (leak Serbia, denied). Only South America is spared, but I would not be surprised if tomorrow the New York Times informs us of another "leak", for example about Mexico. The goal, I repeat, is to discredit and isolate Russia.
This talk by the US is actually a way to box these countries foreign policy in so they do not support Russia later on. I think China had the right approach when the conflict started when they said it was not anyone else's business who they had military arms deals with. I think it is a mistake that the Chinese ambassador said they wouldn't supply weapons to Russia. Especially when China itself has been under Western arms embargo since 1989 and Russia was one of the few countries which supplied China with military weapons.
Even if they won't be supplying weapons to Russia they should still keep the field open for it to happen.
 

pmc

Colonel
Registered Member
I don't think there would be a significant change in Turkish foreign policy. We would likely be a bit "tougher" against Russia but that's about it. I want Erdogan go. His religious regressivism and plunder of national resources for himself are good enough reasons.
If Erdogan replaced by some one more Europhile with no chemistry in Middle East it will create further economic decline in Turkey.
Even Chinese cars sales in Middleast will deprive Turkey of auto and parts market which is among its largest export product.
The more Turkey dependent on European engineering the lesser its competitive position. Turkey is lucky it has that market still in Russia while Russia built alternative supply chains and routes.

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