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Colonel
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That's highly dissapointing. Even if it doesn't intend to arm Russia, China shouldn't have made any commitments, especially not during Baerbock's visit.

I knew that allowing her visit was a mistake. As I've previously stated, China should host only the highest representatives of individual European countries. No EU bureaucrats, no NATO officials, no irrelevant junior coalition partners like German Greens, unless a humiliating treatment has been prepared for them as in the case of VDL. This is a bad look for China. You can't allow this unhinged U.S. puppet to lecture you in your own country !
On the first point, China has not made any commitments. It's just the usual official position. But I agree that theres no point in seeing the likes of Baerbok, unless they come carrying useful contributions to China
 

manqiangrexue

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That's highly dissapointing. Even if it doesn't intend to arm Russia, China shouldn't have made any commitments, especially not during Baerbock's visit.

I knew that allowing her visit was a mistake. As I've previously stated, China should host only the highest representatives of individual European countries. No EU bureaucrats, no NATO officials, no irrelevant junior coalition partners like German Greens, unless a humiliating treatment has been prepared for them as in the case of VDL. This is a bad look for China. You can't allow this unhinged U.S. puppet to lecture you in your own country !
I'm thinking they got something out of her under the table cus there is absolutely no reason to give this to her for no substance plus bitchy ignorant attitude. If they said this during Macron's visit, I'd think they might have fell victim to his charm tactics and perhaps as a trade for the anti-US comments he made but this wouldn't make sense for the 360 lady. Nothing good to offer, no kind words, not from a powerful country equals no visible reason, which means something secret likely happened in my opinion.
 

Stierlitz

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On the first point, China has not made any commitments. It's just the usual official position. But I agree that theres no point in seeing the likes of Baerbok, unless they come carrying useful contributions to China
What irks me is that it was known in advance that Baerbock was visiting with the sole purpose of lecturing China about Uyghurs, Ukraine, Taiwan province etc. Instead of being sent to pick daisies with the ecology minister or whatever, she got meetings with Qin Gang, Han Zheng & Wang Yi and received a platform to disseminate message of her D.C. overlords. China as a superpower needs to take greater care of its honour and dignity.
 
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tokenanalyst

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That's highly dissapointing. Even if it doesn't intend to arm Russia, China shouldn't have made any commitments, especially not during Baerbock's visit.
I don't think the Chinese even have to get embroiled in this regional European war. Also Russian manufacturing capabilities are pretty much intact and their economy has survived the brunt of the sanctions, thanks to non aligned countries like China, India and others. As predicted the Chinese are not going to impose US export controls in their own soil. So as long the Russian economy survive and they have access to electronics, tooling and resources, they can keep up on their own.
 

Temstar

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That's highly dissapointing. Even if it doesn't intend to arm Russia, China shouldn't have made any commitments, especially not during Baerbock's visit.
I've seen too many hints from people who might have some inside information to believe there isn't "arm" flowing into Russia, I believe the actual rule is something like "no exporting completed platforms to Russia, components are a-okay" That's probably the way Russians prefer it anyway, I rather doubt they think it's a good look if say, VT-4 starts showing up on the battlefield in number.

Think about it in reverse, I don't think we would be very please if we see entirely Russian platforms appear in the middle of AR either. People were already upset last year when it was rumored that Su-35 was crossing the strait when Pelosi's plane was landing.
 

tokenanalyst

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I don't think the Chinese even have to get embroiled in this regional European war. Also Russian manufacturing capabilities are pretty much intact and their economy has survived the brunt of the sanctions, thanks to non aligned countries like China, India and others. As predicted the Chinese are not going to impose US export controls in their own soil. So as long the Russian economy survive and they have access to electronics, tooling and resources, they can keep up on their own.
Also serves as a sword of Damocles to the Europeans if they even think to send weapons to Taiwan.
 

GZDRefugee

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Also serves as a sword of Damocles to the Europeans if they even think to send weapons to Taiwan.
When has morality or equivalent standards ever stopped the West from securing their interests? If the narrative was that they needed to go to war with the moon to prevent their quality of life being eroded, the vast majority would become selenophobes before sundown.
 
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