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Lethe

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Russia is the last European great power. France is borderline a vassal let alone a great power. It is not a full vassal yet so I suppose you can call it better than the rest.

I agree that Russia remains a great power, despite its best attempts in Ukraine to prove otherwise. France ... is probably no longer a great power. But my point was that it continues to think of and conduct itself in the world as one, and this has implications for her relations with China. France is probably the western country that is least likely to cooperate with American attempts to leverage European nations against China, because it has a particular sense of its own interests and civilizational destiny that remains distinct from that of the American hegemon and the amorphous "community of nations" that it purports to represent. To a greater extent than other western nations, France is likely to remain a nation that China can deal with and, as an influential nation within the EU, it is a relationship worth cultivating.
 

emblem21

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POLITI COgnitive-challenged
YET ANOTHER CASE OF EMOTIONAL DAMAGE, this time an a sweet biscuit, also known as a Macron aka Americans errand boy aka man that used a trip to repeat yet another talking point but also ducked out of a nation wide protest like a complete pussy since he is the man cause just like the USA is the main cause of the Ukraine crisis. And he invited his BFF who also suffered emotional damage so great, she went by commercial flight to hide the fact that she is a walking embarrassment and the fact that she is basically going to end up as a naked prop on a horse which to be honest is quite frankly disgusting
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Democrat or Republicrat there's no difference or bottom line when it comes to their persistent meddling, needling to China's reddest of redline and that's Taiwan. Here's the new boss, same with the old boss, the new House speaker, Kevin McCarthy discussing his meeting on Fox News with Larry Kudlow (the former Econ guy for Trump).

 

TK3600

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I agree that Russia remains a great power, despite its best attempts in Ukraine to prove otherwise. France ... is probably no longer a great power. But my point was that it continues to think of and conduct itself in the world as one, and this has implications for her relations with China. France is probably the western country that is least likely to cooperate with American attempts to leverage European nations against China, because it has a particular sense of its own interests and civilizational destiny that remains distinct from that of the American hegemon and the amorphous "community of nations" that it purports to represent. To a greater extent than other western nations, France is likely to remain a nation that China can deal with and, as an influential nation within the EU, it is a relationship worth cultivating.
Ok, if that is the case then UK also believe it is a great power and act as if it is.
 

KYli

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US doesn't have universal health care but spent 18.3% of GDP on healthcare which is double the average OECD country. In the end of the day, the pharmacetical companies. health insurance companies and hospitals executives and doctors are making an outrageous amount of money on American health and life expectancy but the Congress has been bought and people have been brainwashed to stay silent.
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FairAndUnbiased

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US doesn't have universal health care but spent 18.3% of GDP on healthcare which is double the average OECD country. In the end of the day, the pharmacetical companies. health insurance companies and hospitals executives and doctors are making an outrageous amount of money on American health and life expectancy but the Congress has been bought and people have been brainwashed to stay silent.
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they're comparing themselves to rich countries? let's not be too hasty here.

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