The fact that China does not seem compelled to keep open lines of communication just exudes a certain confidence. They know that if the US instigates a direct fight in their neighborhood, they have the dominant hand.
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the economic damage may have been more deep but in 2014 Russia would roll through Ukraine because Ukrainian army was total garbage
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Talk is cheap for most people; it's free from Westerners, who expect all their politicians to lie. A Western politician will shake your hand and talk about friendship/cooperation then go back home and do a live interview about how he's proposing laws to ban things to your country and sanction you. Judge these people by their actions, not their words. When France drops out of NATO, tells the US that it will not follow any bans for technology or items to and from China, and progressively drops dollar for yuan, then we can talk about how sincere he is and how much he deserves in return. Before then, a turd sprinkled with little flowers (and apparently also an expensive watch half embedded in it) is just another turd.
Judging by casualty ratios, they could roll through in 2022 as well, if Russia had committed the whole air force and army.
The problem is what happens afterwards when an equally sized NATO volunteer army and US air force hits the overextended Russian occupation regions. Probably a complete collapse back to the Dnieper at best and Crimea at worst.
This makes perfect sense to me. IIRC Chinese demand is mostly for narrow body, and Boeing has no future in China for obvious political reasons.
France's largest oil/gas company is already using RMB in trade with China. That cracks the door open for more French companies that count China as their #1 or #2 trade partner.
Russia have grinded is debt a lot from 2015 to 2022. I think they needed time for preparing themselves against sanction a lot more than the military side.
China's relationship with Russia has been set in stone since about 1990.
Little Macaroon trying to change that strategy is like trying to reverse Earth's gravity
Seems that meeting was more about economics and the politics of it (Ukraine-Russia) was just to give Macron a valid reason to visit papa Xi
It's not all white and black either. If client states such as France can give tangible benefits to China, then these benefits were real, even if they don't come with an official declaration of independence or move to China's bloc.
There's no point in not doing diplomacy with them, none of these deals have ever shown to have hurt China, otherwise, the economy wouldn't be booming and Beijing wouldn't be the biggest economy.
In the thousands of years were imperials from the central plains dominated Asia, we can observe that rebellion almost never happens through one warlord just standing up in a room full of the other warlords and telling the emperor to fuck himself. So it is unrealistic to expect that this will happen in the US empire as well.
When the betrayals come in, its usually when the empire is in dire straits, the emperor rallies the vassals to fight outsiders... when it's time to gather all forces, some vassals will just not show up.
Well... Macron did bring a big business delegation with him and signed many cooperation agreements.
Yes, Macron will go back and sign onto the anti-China G7 or Nato statements but honestly he has no choice because if he resisted the entire Western media would mobilize against him, and probably a good part of the French political establishment would actively criticize him for undermining trans-atlantic unity. There's only so much a single man can do, and although I believe Macron is sincere in wanting better relations with China, I do think he's a weak leader ultimately.