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pmc

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IP? Commercial buildings? Investment shares?

Where do you think the billions in FDI from the US is going in China, it's just free money? It just disappears? They smoke it all?
i dont think US care about older IPs they outsource, creative destruction is part of US DNA.
I am sure you know many superfund sites in US these are previous industrial and FAB closures in states like California and East coast. now more FABs are built at places where population will need to be shifted. same approach of population and industrial shifts will happen on global scale. This time countries like Germany and Japan are fully aligned with it. now you add countries that attract large immigrants like Canada and Australia. you get big market for products. US by itself is not very competent now but once you add Germany to this group they know how to do it.
 

KYli

Brigadier
First of all, I appreciate all the information in regards to how Android is used in China. I did have a knowledge gap on how Chinese mobile companies used AOSP. And indeed, from the sound of it, losing access to AOSP in a technological sense, is not really a threat.

But I still need to insist on a detail - open source is not equivalent to "no license." Open source software is governed by an open source license (typically some variation of Apache or GPL) granted to users. Like any other license, it can be revoked. If you lose access to the license, then you become subject to copy right infringement claims upon cloning the code. While it means little in countries where the US has no jurisdiction, it means a lot in countries where the US does.
Another nonsense from you, for your scenario to happen. First, the US government needs to force Google to end open source license with Chinese smartphone vendors. Second, the US government would also need to force Google to file lawsuits in every jurisdiction to enforce such copyright violation. Lastly, Google needs to file a lawsuit in China and hope the Chinese judges agree with Google.

If you think a lawsuit against Chinese smartphone companies in China for open source license violation is winnable, then I have a bridge to sell you. In addition, it is suicidal for Google to revoke and enforce Android Open source copyright as the minute Google did that Google Android is done.

Would companies like Xiaomi, Oppo, etc. risk getting shut out of the US, Europe, etc. in violation of a platform ban on Byte Dance software? Judging by past actions, if the US sanctions Byte Dance, *any* company that does business with it (and which uses any US technology, including chips and other licensed software) can be subject to similar sanctions for violating US export control.

This includes companies that only host the application in China.

This is why having ANY dependency on US software - including open source software - is risky. Of course, you could make the argument that if the US wanted to target a company, it can come up with any reason - or no reason at all - to ban it across all friendly countries. Indeed, the US could create new laws just for that purpose, like with the RESTRICT act. But as the laws stand today, it is the use of US technology that puts you at risk of export control sanctions internationally.
Another nonsense, if Xiaomi and Oppo dared not to host ByteDance apps, then a brand new Chinese smartphone companies would fill their marketshare in China in matter of months.

Major Chinese smartphone vendors don't have much marketshare in the US and only small marketshare in EU. Both of these markets are irrelevant. Beside, if all these Chinese smartphone vendors join HarmonyOS or any not US app platform, then Google is toasted.

The problem for Westerners and Western worshipers is that they think the US can do whatever it wants. That's not true. US has been abusing its influence in technology and financial system. And many countries especially those of Global South have been fed up with this. Western International liberal order would be crumple due to Westerners' arrogance and abuse of their powers. If these Western politicians don't wake up soon, then a new world order would emerge very soon.

Warning signs are everywhere. African Presidents telling the US and EU that they don't give a damn about Ukraine War and those stupid sanctions have been hard on them. Saudi is so concerned about the price cap on Russian oil that it came out multiple times to warn that it would never allow any country to impose such restriction on it. Indonesian President warned local government not to use Visa and Mastercard.

In the end of the day, if the US wanted to jump off a cliff, then go ahead and ban open source and Google is doom.
 

siegecrossbow

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A fate worse than that of Wu Zixu…

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After the death of King Helü, Wu Zixu did not earn the trust of
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but was ignored. The King gave Wu Zixu a sword and ordered him to commit suicide on the justification that his behaviour amounted to sabotage. Before he committed suicide, Wu Zixu asked King Fuchai to
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after his death and hang them on the city gate so that he could watch the capture of the Wu capital by the Yue army.

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. Faced with the demise of his state, King Fuchai committed suicide. He lamented that he did not heed the counsel of Wu Zixu and covered his face as he died because he dared not face Wu in the afterlife.
 

gelgoog

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But I still need to insist on a detail - open source is not equivalent to "no license." Open source software is governed by an open source license (typically some variation of Apache or GPL) granted to users. Like any other license, it can be revoked. If you lose access to the license, then you become subject to copy right infringement claims upon cloning the code. While it means little in countries where the US has no jurisdiction, it means a lot in countries where the US does.
That is not how either of those licenses work. And in the past when the US banned the sale of US designed software like crypto libraries, they eventually started being hosted outside the US. In theory the US can ban the sale of any US made product, open source or not, but the nature of open source software makes such enforcement by the US government basically impossible. All that China needs to do is clone the source code repository, and that is trivial to do today. China also already has its own source code repositories like gitee.
 

Breadbox

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The US empire suddenly get very, very interested in the human rights violations of Saudi Arabia.

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I say without a hint of doubt and irony that I wish to see all "Liberal democracies" destroyed just so that I don't have to hear their insufferable claptrap for another second. They are completely incapable of bringing anything other than social degeneration, economic recession and physical destruction to anyone, not even themselves.

In thousand years after their demise, words like "Human rights" and "Freedom" might regain some positive meaning that doesn't immediately invoke the disgust of having to hear those troglodyte larping as civilised people.
 

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Why does watching "news" of the US administration always strongly resemble watching a toddler? It's like this is the first time they've realized they're drawing China's payoff matrix this way. Literally discovering in real time the concept that always going maximum mutt may not be the optimal strategy, like it's some great revelation.
 

siegecrossbow

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Why does watching "news" of the US administration always strongly resemble watching a toddler? It's like this is the first time they've realized they're drawing China's payoff matrix this way. Literally discovering in real time the concept that always going maximum mutt may not be the optimal strategy, like it's some great revelation.

By softer tone do they mean that instead of f*CK China it’ll be let me have intercourse with China?
 

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The Indigenous people living on the shrinking two-thirds of the island not already consumed by U.S. military bases have little to no choice in the matter.
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Today, Guam is recognized as one of only 17 "non-self-governing territories" recognized by the UN. The UN has rebuked "the impacts of the United States of America's increased military presence in Guam and the failure to protect the indigenous Chamorro people from the loss of their traditional lands, territories, and resources; serious adverse environmental impacts; the loss of cultural artifacts and human remains; as well as the denial of the right to free, prior and informed consent and self-determination."

"Today, the massive buildup of military infrastructure and personnel currently being undertaken in Guam has negatively impacted natural and cultural resources," Won Pat-Borja said. "Harm is also being inflicted upon the political, social, and economic wellbeing of the people of Guam, particularly the indigenous Chamoru people of Guam whose historical dispossession continues today."

The construction of a firing range at Camp Blaz located along the island's northern pressed on despite protests from local residents against the destruction not only of natural habitats deemed vital for the medicinal practices of the Chamorro culture, but also sacred sites and burial grounds.

"The confines of unincorporated Territory status continue to enable the U.S. military to do as it pleases in Guam with no consent from and little regard for the people who call it home." he added. "The current U.S. military expansion and buildup in Guam has led to primarily younger people developing increasing frustration and anger. There are many in the community who are critical. We are very concerned."

"We are extremely grateful for the incredible support we receive from the community and the immense patriotism demonstrated." Admiral Benjamin Nicholson said. "Guam is the tip of America's spear, a strategically valuable asset."
#FreeGuam
 
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