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I'm just trying to understand better China's refinery expansion, where they are getting oil from and what they are producing

Reading this, it's quite interesting to see how Middle Eastern exporters are directly getting connected with small private refineries. It's also interesting to read about the greenfield mega refineries. Quite interesting to see the toggle between Arabs, Russians and Iranians for business with China's independent refineries. A lot about liquids to chemical refineries makes me think that China is just ready to really take over the petrochemical market, especially with their access to low cost petroleum, advanced new refinery facilities and competitors facing high cost operation. Reading this, I think it will be good for the smaller refineries to be replaced by more modern refineries and to force exporters to trade over Shanghai energy exchanges.
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China is now world's top refiner with a lot of new petrochemical capacity. Notice how the retired facilities are all in Shandong. Shandong is losing its place in China's refinery industries due to their facilities being older. Sounds like the entire industry is getting more efficient and older capacity are closed down. Interesting that even 77% in 2021 was an all time high for them and that those smaller shuttled facilities were running at 50% utilization. In America, I think the refineries in 2022 were running at over 90% utilization.
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The end part is important too, because China's gasoline demand probably is flatlining due to the increasing EV presence, so they don't need to continue to increase their refining capacity for gasoline or even diesel. So, the additional refinery capacity could be exported or be used to increase their market share in petrochemicals. Probably why the new refineries are mostly liquids to chemicals plants.

Another good article here
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China at 18.81 million bpd of refining in 2022 and looking to reach 20 million by 2025 with 80% utilization. Somehow, America is running at over 90% utilization with 17.7 million bpd of refining and continue to shutter its refinery capacity. With that kind of direction, America is clearly going to export less going forward.
According to Biden,
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has shuttered since the beginning of the COVID pandemic,
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in the United States.
this is kind of crazy how much less refining capacity there are, especially in US and I don't think America has added any new refineries recently. This has caused diesel shortage big time.

The ESG commitment and demand is pushing all these energy companies to cut refineries in America and Europe. Great for the environment and not so much for energy security.
Apparently, oil and gas companies and their investors have listened to policymakers’ calls for less investment in fossil fuels and have heeded those calls. For example, Shell operated
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, but cut the figure to 8 refineries to reduce the company’s climate footprint. By 2025, the company plans to operate 5 refineries.
This picture of result of US SPR is quite enlightening. China is adding to its strategic reserve for a long time rather than refining more. As a result of this, it didn't export that much in the summer time and only started toward end of the year.
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No new major oil refinery has been built in the United States since the Carter administration and Biden’s climate policies and regulations will ensure that none are built in the future. Due to the renewable fuel standard and tax credits, some of the refineries that have not shuttered are being converted to biofuel facilities.
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, the U.S. refining industry’s ability to respond to rising petroleum prices is definitely handicapped.
Again, great for environment, but not great for energy security. While I expect America to have enough refining capacity for itself, I think its ability to export refined product to other Western countries on ESG commitment will continue to decrease over time. As such, we will like have China battling out with Middle Easterners and Indians for export to rest of the world
 

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China continues to purchase most of its oil from Saudi Arabia in 2022. 1.75 million bpd from them vs 1.72 million bpd from Russia. and imports from US slumped by 31%. I'm surprised it's that high still.

Also, all time high from Malaysia, which is most likely actually crude from Iran & Venezuela.

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Again, China importing record amount from Malaysia, which are most likely redirected imports from Iran. It was said that Chian imported record amount from Iran in December.
 

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But it will take until 2026 for Germany to install 56 billion cubic meters of domestic LNG import capacity, about the same it imported by pipe from Russia in 2021, the Economy Ministry wrote in an answer to a set of questions by the Left Party.


By 2030 those capacities are seen at 76.5 billion cubic meters, or about 80 per cent of total German gas consumption in 2021.
so aside from LNG being more expensive than pipeline. Even that, it will take them another 4 years to replace Russian pipeline gas. And that's assuming they don't have more industrial usage for LNG. There are just certain industrial usage right now where fossil fuel cannot be replaced. Hydrogen fuel is probably a decade away from making any kind of real contribution here.
 

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Looks to me that the independent smaller refiners in Shandong are going to make a killing from refining cheap blended Russian oil and collecting on the large crack spread.

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especially now with EU formally banning Russian refined oil products.
 

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China continues to purchase most of its oil from Saudi Arabia in 2022. 1.75 million bpd from them vs 1.72 million bpd from Russia. and imports from US slumped by 31%. I'm surprised it's that high still.

Also, all time high from Malaysia, which is most likely actually crude from Iran & Venezuela.

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Again, China importing record amount from Malaysia, which are most likely redirected imports from Iran. It was said that Chian imported record amount from Iran in December.
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If China announces that in 6 months, all her purchases would be paid in yuan of the source country's currency, would there be enough oil to buy? Or would such a move make her too dependent on very few sources?
 

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Sir,

If China announces that in 6 months, all her purchases would be paid in yuan of the source country's currency, would there be enough oil to buy? Or would such a move make her too dependent on very few sources?
There probably are enough oil if I had to guess, but seems like unnecessary.

Remember, they want to build an exchange where foreign buyers and sellers will come and trade. They have two right now: Shanghai petroleum and gas exchange and Shanghai international energy exchange. Both exchanges probably still have some work to do to have full suite of products. There is no real need to push this process. They need to get their exchanges into shape first. Until then, they can probably do small amount of trading with gcc countries in rmb and continue to buy from Russians and Iranians in rmb.
 

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Interesting comparison between china and Europe when it comes to securing lng deals. Looks like Europe will continue to see sky high gas prices for a while. It does make me wonder if china at some point will do a major gas power station replacement of coal power. Only about 5% of their energy needs is met by natural gas. Most of their ng use are for other stuff. It's a good middle step between coal and nuclear.
 

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so does this make it 48 bcm through POS1 now?
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Under the new contract it is expected that the gas will not just go to the markets of Beijing and Shanghai, but will also be actively used along the path of the pipeline in northeastern parts of China.
The document stresses the priority role of the ruble and yuan in settlements. "The parties welcome and encourage authorized organizations' use of the national currencies of Russia and China in carrying out settlements in the energy sector. The financial agencies of the parties will jointly create conditions for promoting authorized organizations' use of national currencies in carrying out settlements in the energy sector," it said
and of course, RUB/CNY settlement.

China is also scouring the market for more LNG
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Why don't they just sign more LNG deals with Russia?
I really think they need to add more LNG plant if they are adding this much import.
 

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so does this make it 48 bcm through POS1 now?
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and of course, RUB/CNY settlement.

China is also scouring the market for more LNG
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Why don't they just sign more LNG deals with Russia?
I really think they need to add more LNG plant if they are adding this much import.
Maybe LNG delivery is already maxed out with Russia. China is also thinking about what if US renegs on LNG sales to China after reunification. Gotta test diversify LNG sources first.
 

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I guess we will have to see on LNG.

Anyhow, the diesel front is playing out for all to see now since EU's Russian refined oil product ban.
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looks like China is exporting 7.6 million ton of fuel products in Jan/Feb, already using up 40% of their export quota that has been issued so far. This would include diesel, gasoline and jet fuel I would imagine.

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China’s diesel exports rose for a second month in December, hitting 2.79 million tonnes, up 32.8% from November’s 2.10 million, according to official data released on Jan. 18.

This equates to about 675,000 barrels per day (bpd) and was the highest since March 2021, and also more than double the 290,000 bpd shipped out in May, which was the weakest month in 2022.
I'd be curious of the breakdown since they exported a lot of diesel in Nov/Dec.
However, Chinese refiners still have plenty of export quotas available and will likely ramp up shipments of refined products from February onwards.

Refiners in China and India can also withstand lower profit margins better than other export-orientated competitors, such as those in Singapore.

This is because they have been ramping up imports of cheaper Russian crude, thus lowering their input costs.
 
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