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ht1688

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In China, you rarely see people playing football. They watch but do not play. Living in China, I would go months without seeing kids playing football.
The park close to where I live in Shenzhen has a soccer field that was built 7 or 8 years ago. Coincidentally, yesterday while I was biking there, I saw for the first time a bunch of grade school kids practicing there (with a coach). I was thinking to myself maybe China is beginning to promote soccer at the grassroot. So, things could be changing.
 

AssassinsMace

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China just looks at sports differently. Mao set the tone when he saw Western type athleticism as bad. The rest of the world they get into professional sports mostly for fame and fortune meaning by its nature only the fewest people possible could ever attain this. The more there are, the more it's diluted. In the US a lot of athletes come from less prosperous backgrounds because that is seen as something they can attain without having a lot of money. Those successes inspire others to try but again only the fewest people possible could ever get it. So what you have left is more people that weren't success stories that didn't spend their time like being educated for other careers and they're left with low paying jobs for the rest of their lives. That's why Chinese parents tend to frown at such things because what are the chances? That kind of environment doesn't exist in China.

Why do you think it's so important for the West to force Chinese and the rest of the world to embrace Western values? They want people to think it's because they have the best values for society where everyone can be happy. No, that's the bait. The real reason why is to get power, influence, and money over and from you for themselves. When the Chinese movie box office exploded, Hollywood was making demands of unrestricted access to the Chinese market without catering to Chinese tastes. Isn't that the best way to make the most money?

What was important to Hollywood is they wanted to force American tastes on the Chinese which meant liking only Americans actors wanting to watch their movies, liking only American storytelling so Chinese audiences gravitate to watching only their movies. Appealing to Chinese tastes takes time and cost money. When you hear an American movie costs $200 million dollars to make, double that which how much money it cost for including marketing. Appealing to Chinese tastes will only cost them more money. If they can get Chinese to embrace Americans values and tastes, it won't cost them more while more money flows in for them because they brainwashed Chinese to only liking American movies. That's just one facet. They want that in sports, They want that in business. They want that with Chinese consumers. They want that in technology. They want that in everything not because it's good for all but because it's only good for them. If they can control what people value, because that's why they want everyone to embrace Western values, they control you by denying you what is valued until you do what the want.

That's why I'm ambivalent to any talk of valuing anything like from Western sports institutions. If you like playing soccer, then you like soccer. There's nothing wrong with that but yearning to be a part of them is another thing entirely. If the Chinese created a good enough team, you don't think there would be accusations of cheating? That's what they do when they lose. It's not some big kumbaya party that they want everyone to join in. They just want you to value it so it'll be more devastating for you when they deny it and take it away. Valuing what they have only makes them more arrogant. That's the whole point from their end on why they want everyone to embrace their values. Do you know how to slay a god? It doesn't need armies fighting great wars. It doesn't need lightning bolts from the heavens. All you need to slay a god is just not to believe and they just die disappearing into nothing.
 

Biscuits

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When studying abroad in Argentina, I often saw children playing football. You'd see a small patch of grass or a small park, and there would be kids playing football (and passing the ball correctly to each other). In the United States you often see organized matches in parks. Not coincidentally, Argentina is a football power and the United States often makes it to the second round.

In China, you rarely see people playing football. They watch but do not play. Living in China, I would go months without seeing kids playing football. If people in a country don't play a sport, no matter how large its population, it will not be successful at that sport.

Chinese parents emphasize studying over sports. Their kids have little chance of making it as athletes but can do well with a STEM degree.

There are advantages to having a country's kids study STEM. You get stuff like Alibaba, Huawei, TikTok, high-speed rail, the J-20, and a space station. The disadvantage is that your national football team sucks.

Argentine kids study football and not STEM. Argentina gets the Argentine economy and Lionel Messi. Chinese kids study football and not STEM. China gets the Chinese economy and the Chinese men's national football team.
it is not mutually exclusive though. Chinese kids like other social pastimes such as table tennis, swimming (and unfortunately, gaming). Which leads to China having really good competitors on those areas (yes, even esports). Theres nothing to say that football can't in the longer term be promoted just to increase health and activity. And a side effect of this would be better football teams obviously.
 

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Woah!!! the insecurity...lol it's a good thing China Military didn't show the H20 for pride sake. ;) The B21 raider is a mock up not the actual prototype, it will take years for it to be operational. From my amateur eyes IF H20 do enter service the Chinese will reach parity with the US regarding strategic bomber.

And Here I think the US can't spend itself to maintain it's supremacy, it had reach an Imperial Overstretch, like the Romans before them I fear a system collapse.

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In4ser

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While encouraging exercise and fitness is essential, the overemphasis on Sports and Entertainment is part of the Bread & Circus to make the populace distracted and complacent. Yes, we would all like to see China having a better sports team or being "cool," the problem with that is their success creates youth idolization where they choose to spend time and energy seeking careers in unproductive industries rather than focusing on their science and industry. It's like the popular jock versus the brainy nerd in comparing who tends to succeed later in life.

I mean look at African Americans who dominate sports and entertainment in the US and how well they fare socioeconomically as a group. Also, there appears to be an inverse correlation between the rise of Japanese and Korean pop culture and their decline in national competitiveness in economics, industry, and science. Overfocus on soft power can lead to hard power suffering as a consequence as the Song Dynasty found out when barbarians appeared at the gates.
 
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Airbus plans to abandon Russian titanium

The company said that it is still buying "a certain percentage of Russian titanium." Exact figures were not given. How can airlines replace titanium from Russia?

Airbus
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to abandon Russian titanium within a few months, said Michael Scholhorn, head of the company's defense and space division. “We are in the process of breaking ties with Russia when it comes to titanium. It’s a matter of months, not years… I can’t give an exact date, it’s a rather complicated process, but it will happen,” he said.


The Russian company VSMPO-Avisma is the world's largest titanium producer and supplies about 30% of titanium to the global aerospace industry. According to RIA Novosti, the company provides up to 40% of Boeing's titanium needs and up to 60% of Airbus's needs.

Boeing
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contracts for the supply of Russian titanium in the spring of 2022. Reuters industry sources say it has expanded purchases from the United States and Japan while exploring new sources. Certifying new suppliers to stringent aerospace standards could take years. How Airbus plans to cope, says analyst at Finam JSC Alexey Kalachev :


- Boeing refused back in March, said that it had created a whole pool of replacement suppliers. Apparently, the replacement is still possible, because Russia is not the only supplier today, there is a chance for other manufacturers to increase production. Avisma may already need help from the state in order to somehow organize purchases for the stock or refocus on other types of titanium products. There are a lot of ore reserves, and processors, in general, are also quite large in the USA, Japan, in Japan the volume of its production is about half that of Avisma.

— Is there a demand for Russian titanium in other countries where we can supply it?

— Focusing on the aerospace industry ensured guaranteed sales, guaranteed demand, supplies, production all the time in conditions of integration into production chains. There is China, but it also produces a lot, it is one of the competitors. But titanium application is not only this, titanium dioxide is used in the food industry, in the paint and varnish industry, and there the bulk of the mined non-metallic titanium. Avisma has already launched a discussion on such a topic, whether to reorient to a larger volume with a reorientation to the paint and varnish industry. Apparently, now this topic may resurface.


At the end of the summer, the head of Airbus, Guillaume Faury ,
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that if VSMPO-Avisma stops supplying metal to the global aerospace industry, "it will be the end of history." Boris Rybak, General Director of the consulting company Infomost, comments:


Boris RybakGeneral Director of the consulting company "Infomost"“Apparently, they did part of the homework, found other sources, looked, somehow organized all this. They came up with a supplier, they will check it for a couple of years, test it for financial, technological, managerial reliability, it will take a year. This is not an exaggeration at all, but, by the way, one year has already passed, consider it, because as soon as the sanctions were introduced, all the main consumers of these products began to do their homework. Production is a long-term, deeply planned human activity. All these programs are designed for decades, they all planned the parameters, the price, what needs to be improved, how the logistics are organized. It's a huge, complex system. When you at some point say no, I won’t do it again ” -this, of course, is not a catastrophe, but it is such an average managerial crisis.

In addition to Boeing and Airbus, the Russian corporation VSMPO-Avisma supplied titanium to such companies as Embraer, Rolls-Royce, Safran Aircraft Engines. Boeing and Rolls-Royce
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contracts for the
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of Russian titanium.
 
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