Chinese Economics Thread

[Overlord]

But bro Tiktok is an Americanized Chinese food and it taste like shit...lol

Tiktok is only platform which is owned by china ,rest are owned by America( meta, google, twitter etc). Platform is one of the best thing which you can have, because of platform advantage America pushes video, content of anti china & anti russia and so many people no matter how much you try you can't defeat their algorithm so you would be end up watching their content & get brainwashed. Since tiktok is not in their control so they can't twick their Algorithm for anti china & anti russia propaganda. If you don't believe me then just see views of pro china channel and any anti china channel

The only solution for china is that they need their own OS both mobile & laptop and their own platform which can compete with big tech companies platform and they need huge number of devlopers from all over the world to achieve that ,but main problem would be that how many people outside of china would be willing to ditch ecosystem of meta, google ,twitter and dump android & IOS I don't think it might work that much , because everybody don't want to leave those big platform where there are so many users are already there .

 

[Overlord]

It is good that they're forced to shut out advancements instead of being able to compete with them. Just like the USSR in its last days.

If we were ever worried about how China could speed ahead in tech when China is so closely connected in the civilian sector to America... This is how. America itself will reject the advancements it needs to improve, turning its companies which have now become on dependent on state interference to survive into ineffective, uninnovative zombies.

Read this.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580180931284938752

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

The EU economy has not taken advantage of the new economic models and was instead basically further colonized by US corporate giants as a result of their complacency. A lot of the cheaper products and basic industry were also replaced with Chinese products. Add to this now Europe nerfing itself by cutting itself off Russian energy and resources and it is a recipe for failure. Europe is headed the same way as Japan I think.

Japan has a few things going for it. They can always jump ship to China when things get tough as their companies are already heavily invested in China, they have cultural similarities, and are surrounded by peaceful countries.

Tiktok is only platform which is owned by china ,rest are owned by America( meta, google, twitter etc). Platform is one of the best thing which you can have, because of platform advantage America pushes video, content of anti china & anti russia and so many people no matter how much you try you can't defeat their algorithm so you would be end up watching their content & get brainwashed. Since tiktok is not in their control so they can't twick their Algorithm for anti china & anti russia propaganda. If you don't believe me then just see views of pro china channel and any anti china channel

The only solution for china is that they need their own OS both mobile & laptop and their own platform which can compete with big tech companies platform and they need huge number of devlopers from all over the world to achieve that ,but main problem would be that how many people outside of china would be willing to ditch ecosystem of meta, google ,twitter and dump android & IOS I don't think it might work that much , because everybody don't want to leave those big platform where there are so many users are already there .

Weibo, WeChat, Baidu are the platforms.

There's already Japanese using Weibo and due to the huge language barrier between Japanese and English they will never fully be on board with Google, Twitter, etc. There's also the ease with which Japanese can learn Chinese and vice versa, almost as easy as English learning Spanish, Russians learning Ukrainian or Hindi learning Punjabi. So eventually breaking Japan out of the Matrix is doable. And that gives China the entire Southeast Asia.

 

[gelgoog]

There's also the ease with which Japanese can learn Chinese and vice versa, almost as easy as English learning Spanish, Russians learning Ukrainian or Hindi learning Punjabi.

That might be true for the traditional written language i.e. Kanji which is based on Chinese. But the spoken language of Japanese is totally different. Japanese and Koreans, they speak like Yoda. The way they construct sentences and even paragraphs is the other way around from most of the world. They flip everything. That was my stumbling block with Japanese. I learn some words, etc, more or less easily, but the sentence structure is just nuts. Japanese and Koreans have the same issue when trying to learn other languages i.e. everything is constructed the other way around.

 

[KYli]

Tiktok is owned by a Chinese company. Other than that it has nothing to do with China. Tiktok doesn't advocate for China or advance Chinese interests. When Zhang Yiming craved and bowed to the US pressure under a few hours, we know for a fact that this company is useless for China.

For the last two years, Tiktok has distanced itself from China and left the HK market to appease the US. It has moved its servers for the US data to Oracle. I don't think China cares that much about Tiktok except for a fact that it doesn't want the US to control it.

 

[KYli]

More investment from German.

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[Overbom]

More investment from German.

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Cariad, the manufacturer’s software subsidiary will take a 60% stake in the joint venture, with the transaction due to be completed next year. Cariad is attempting to get back on track after software development hiccups delayed several models, including the important electric Porsche Macan. The disarray culminated in the departure of Chief Executive Officer Herbert Diess with Oliver Blume now in charge at Europe biggest carmaker.

60% stake

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

That might be true for the traditional written language i.e. Kanji which is based on Chinese. But the spoken language of Japanese is totally different. Japanese and Koreans, they speak like Yoda. The way they construct sentences and even paragraphs is the other way around from most of the world. They flip everything. That was my stumbling block with Japanese. I learn some words, etc, more or less easily, but the sentence structure is just nuts. Japanese and Koreans have the same issue when trying to learn other languages i.e. everything is constructed the other way around.

IDK about Korean but I just understand Japanese as modified classical Chinese which has many similarities like implied subjects and loose word order. Japanese people, based on Quora answers, can just read Chinese Wikipedia directly without a translator. Not the other way around though.

Japanese can also talk to Chinese people using 伪中国语 (Japanese with characters only). The problem is many middle aged Japanese born in the 40s-70s don't know their characters well. Those born earlier and later both have better Chinese education (kanji, kanbun). It is no wonder they can use characters only.

Example: (politely) where are you going tomorrow?

Chinese construction is:
阁下明日去何处？

Japanese construction is:
贵方明日何处行？

I can understand just fine. They just sound excessively formal, more formal than formal.

So Japanese can just use Chinese social media directly with minimal learning both in reading and writing. They just can't speak anything verbally without actually learning Chinese.

Korean (and Vietnamese) is a totally different story, you have to actually know how to speak their language correctly, you can't just use characters thanks to their writing system, and they don't recognize characters anymore. To me they might as well be writing Martian/pinyin respectively, and to them Chinese characters are now as foreign as English.

So Koreans and Vietnamese unfortunately are leaving the Chinese cultural sphere, but Japanese can definitely come back.

 

[Sinnavuuty]

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[CMP]

IDK about Korean but I just understand Japanese as modified classical Chinese which has many similarities like implied subjects and loose word order. Japanese people, based on Quora answers, can just read Chinese Wikipedia directly without a translator. Not the other way around though.

Japanese can also talk to Chinese people using 伪中国语 (Japanese with characters only). The problem is many middle aged Japanese born in the 40s-70s don't know their characters well. Those born earlier and later both have better Chinese education (kanji, kanbun). It is no wonder they can use characters only.

Example: (politely) where are you going tomorrow?

Chinese construction is:
阁下明日去何处？

Japanese construction is:
贵方明日何处行？

I can understand just fine. They just sound excessively formal, more formal than formal.

So Japanese can just use Chinese social media directly with minimal learning both in reading and writing. They just can't speak anything verbally without actually learning Chinese.

Korean (and Vietnamese) is a totally different story, you have to actually know how to speak their language correctly, you can't just use characters thanks to their writing system, and they don't recognize characters anymore. To me they might as well be writing Martian/pinyin respectively, and to them Chinese characters are now as foreign as English.

So Koreans and Vietnamese unfortunately are leaving the Chinese cultural sphere, but Japanese can definitely come back.

Regarding Vietnam and South Korea, that's the power of colonization.