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I did illustrate some of the problems with the American higher education system in a previous post
1. Liberal arts degrees are generally scams
2. Private institutions running wild

You raise another point that I've seen come up here before as well. The best and brightest going into business instead of Science. Actually this also applies to STEM grads themselves. I know of 3 people who went to MIT and all end up in business related fields. 1 of them went back to researching only because he made so much money, but the research is just a hobby now, not serious.

I don't think being too soft is the issue, people's attitudes can change if they want. I just think the direction of America is not really heading in a good way.

Leaving it only to Chinese scientists (because that is what the article was focused on), a few factors are immediately obvious

1. Increasing discrimination and restrictions on freedom. America prides itself on being the "land of the free", yet since 2000 (when Wen Ho Lee was arrested and career ruined), rather than learn a lesson, America LEO has doubled down on cracking down on ethnic Chinese scientists. In China, you know what kind of politics and speech to stay away from, but the Law Enforcement in America is going as far as using your visits to friends and family against you.

2. Rising quality of life in China. This one is easy. Even though in the 90's and 00's there was a big increase in quality of life in China, it was still not quite at western levels. Today, you can live on par with the USA in terms of food, goods, cars, etc. Your living space will probably still be smaller though.

3. (Perceptions of?) Rising violence and homelessness. 6/10 worst mass shooting incidents have occurred in the last ten years. Many of them at schools. This isn't really the kind of environment that a scientist (or anyone) wants for their family.
Even in liberal arts, Chinese liberal arts graduates (degrees like Chinese literature, Asian languages, history, etc) are typically bilingual or trilingual, can read and write classical Chinese and speak with coherence and confidence using literary language without scripts.

FM Wang Yi is a typical Chinese liberal arts graduate: fully bilingual in Chinese and Japanese, still fluent in English, writes coherently and speaks without stuttering or looking at a script using literary language.

Compare that to liberal arts grads from some certain country:

1. Still monolingual
2. Still reads a script
3. Stutters, uses "uh" and "um" because mouth moves faster than brain
4. Doesn't know historical context
5. Can't understand classical English

You know Sleepy.Joe has a double major in history, political science, with minor in English? The guy is supposedly educated in history, politics, and English! Imagine that when listening to him talk.
 

xypher

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Do you have any source for this? And Z guys removing their pics as well as the ethnic nationalism? Would be interested to read.
No particular sources because that's an unpopular topic in Russia, for obvious reasons you won't see anything about that in state media and I don't trust various lib media without videos or images. My words are primarily based on rapid changes in the tone and content from major local Instagram, Telegram, etc. accounts\chats. For example, IG account "asiansofrussia" (+ TG version) who mostly used to post about culture and instances of anti-Asian racism in Russia got persecuted for his posts about disproportionate deaths of soldiers from minority regions during the start of the war, then had to leave Russia & now posts heavy anti-Russian content and it has a huge following. Many local chats started boiling after instances like this -
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(father of 5 got drafted despite having 0 experience) or this -
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(taking students from the university despite pledging not to do that like 1 day ago). Another indicator is how many activists who were before mostly talking about instances of racism now went to full secessionist mode and are gaining followers despite the fact that this topic was pretty unpopular not too long ago.

Plus e.g. Buryatia borders Mongolia and I posted links to traffic jams on that border earlier, many people are trying to flee. There wasn't as much panic during the start of the war.
 

pmc

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Erdogan speech to Turkish-US business council complaining about lack of defense cooperation.
i think he is facing real pressure to modernize airforce but new F-16 can take a decade.
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“Artificial barriers” against the two countries’ alliance are harming cooperation in the defense industry, he said.
“This situation negatively affects the security of the entire NATO geography as well as our commercial relations. This wrong and biased attitude, which develops as a result of the pressure exerted by some lobbies on American decision-makers, which lacks a strategic perspective, actually harms American interests,” Erdoğan said.
 

xypher

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We already know that the "Finnish border story" is a fake, I have no more time to waste on investigating or believing others.

We Chinese have the saying "造谣一张嘴,辟谣跑断腿". Debunking one lie is enough for ignoring the others. Guess who taught Chinese this lesson? The same people who is talking about Russians right now.
Nah, you just pooped your pants thinking that I would be unable to provide any links and since you cannot refute them now, you are just taking a weak cop out. Sure, keep thinking that no one is leaving and everything is great. I guess the air tickets for Erevan, Astana, etc. are being bought out by CIA, lol. I guess channels like
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are also just bots posting fake information and actually no people are leaving.
 

baykalov

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From Sergey Lavrov's UN speech:


For years the West turned a blind eye to transgressions by the regime in Kiev, the Russian FM told the UN

The Russian foreign minister presented a long list of human rights violations by Kiev that went ignored by various European and global human rights groups, from “burning books, just like in Nazi Germany” to using banned ‘petal’ land mines against civilians this summer.

“Such outrages became possible and remain unpunished due to the fact that the US and its allies, with the connivance of international human rights institutions, have been systematically covering up the crimes of the Kiev regime for eight years, basing their policy towards [Ukrainian President Vladimir] Zelensky based on the well-known American principle: he may be a son of a bitch, but he is our son of a bitch,” said Lavrov.

This was a reference to an apocryphal quote attributed to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and thought to apply either to Anastasio Somoza of Nicaragua or Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic – both US-backed dictators.

The current crisis in Ukraine was brought about by the West systematically covering up the crimes of political leaders in Kiev since the 2014 Maidan coup, the Russian Foreign Minister told the UN Security Council on Thursday.

Sergey Lavrov noted that “impunity” is a good term for what has been happening in Ukraine, not since February but since 2014, when US-backed nationalists and neo-Nazis overthrew the democratically elected government by force. No one has ever been held responsible for the murders on the Maidan, the burning of peaceful protesters in Odessa, or the assassinations of dissidents, he pointed out.

Meanwhile, civilians in Donbass have been bombed mercilessly for years and dubbed terrorists and even subhuman, simply for refusing to accept the results of the coup and insisting on their basic human right to speak Russian, Lavrov continued.

"Ukraine has finally turned into a Nazi totalitarian state", said Lavrov.

Lavrov also accused the Ukrainian armed forces of using civilians as human shields and said that Russia and the Donbass republics are fighting against the “Western military machine” in Ukraine, with the US and its allies perilously close to being overt participants in the conflict.

Moscow has shared evidence demonstrating that the West has sought to turn Ukraine into a forward outpost that could threaten Russia’s security, Lavrov told the UN. “I can assure you, we will not let that happen.”

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taxiya

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Nah, you just pooped your pants thinking that I would be unable to provide any links and since you cannot refute them now, you are just taking a weak cop out. Sure, keep thinking that no one is leaving and everything is great. I guess the air tickets for Erevan, Astana, etc. are being bought out by CIA, lol.
I would have been surprised if no more lies came out from a habitual liar. Most of us here have learnt that "once a liar, forever a liar". If you call a debunked fake news as source of evidence, be my guest. More pies of shit is just stinkier than one, that is my point.
 
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Chevalier

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There’s a certain sense of cold hearted schadenfreude I feel re the buryats as I do towards the mongols and other former denizens of previous Chinese empires; these guys chose to become a part of the Russian empire, well suck it up and enjoy being cannon fodder as the non white draftees for mother Russia today. Your cousins in Inner Mongolia are getting fat and rich off Chinese growth.
 

xypher

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If you call a debunked fake news as source of evidence, be my guest. More pies of shit is stinkier than one, that is my point. Most of us here have learnt that "once a liar, forever a liar". I would be shocked if no more lies to come out from a habitue liar.
Your debunked story is based on some Twitter posts, while info on other borders comes from other sources. You are just trying to salvage your first post by clinging to one separate piece. If you want to believe that no one is leaving and everything is great, then keep thinking that way, lol. Are you in Russia right now?

@Chevalier - Buryats neither chose to become a part of the Russian empire (they got conquered and colonized) nor they were denizens of the late Chinese empires, most of them at least, since there were some nomadic tribes in the Qing steppes and some actually later immigrated to China after the revolution (there is a sizeable community in Hulun-Buir, for example). They mostly inhabited territories near the lake Baikal where the Chinese empires had little influence even during the Yuan dynasty due to the policies by Mongol rulers and the generally extremely sparse population there. I mean even modern Buryatia has less than 1 million people (60-70% are Russian) living there.
 
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