Ukrainian War Developments

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meckhardt98

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Alleged Ukrainian government extraction orders for the disposal of biological weapons in their laboratories; if anyone can translate it would be greatly appreciated.

From Russian source; unverified.
 

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4Runner

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EU is just setting a trap for China. The issue is not between Ukraine and Russia. It is between US/NATO and Russia. There is no need for a mediator, nor anybody capable to mediate. EU is not asking for a mediator but a human shield for NATO aggression.

China will stay out of it until NATO acknowledge the Russian security concern. The Chinese representative to EU has made that clear.
I would agree your points except the first one. European elites, like their American counterparts, are anything but dumb. As this war drags on, they are the ones who are falling into an abyss they set up for themselves. And they desperately need a third-party to help bail them out. China is the only possibility that can be accepted by both sides. So they really have no other choices. The problem is that (1) China usually doesn't like to play that kind of roles; and (2) US may not allow China to do so and remain on the sideline.

So I am drinking my Chinese tea and watching how those Europeans are squaring that circle.
 

Chilled_k6

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Some recent footage of Russian MLRS firing.

This village Peremoha is near the border of Kyiv and Chernihiv oblast eastern border and directly east of Kyiv along Kyiv-Sumy highway. 50.4978972, 31.2592907 firing on Ukrainians in southwards direction.


This means Russian maps from Readovka is pretty accurate for this area, though I think this is more contested than full control.

The DPR and LPR seems to be making the most steady gains recently. LPR is encircling Severodonetsk area and captured 8 settlements in the region recently. Sparta battalion of DPR captures flag of the 15th separate mountain assault battalion, Volnovakha north of Mariupol.
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Russian MOD reports destroying 3 Buk M1, 3 radar stations, and S-300 from airstrikes.
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That means by Russia's own assessment, Ukrainian AD is still very much active and the SEAD campaign continues.

The link also talks about alleged Ukrainian nuclear weapons dev. Not saying whether I think it's real or not and of course so far unverified. It's a report from TASS so it looks like Russia is doing its own WMD justification along with biolabs stuff.
 
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asif iqbal

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I see some commentors here saying how China should take advantage of the situation and extract as much concessions from Russia as possible and I can't help but laugh

Russia has a short temper and and does not wait, they dont have patience raw strength is the Russian way

China on the other hand will sit and wait for decades even centuries to get even, super patient super calculating

both these qualities of Russia + China will benefit each other and actually are complimentary, one is a bottom liner and other is a fine liner

this is why I say China should play the West, allow the West to be preoccupied and now all western nations will be even more preoccupied with Russia while China quality launches another 8 x Type 055

China is the financial muscle + Russia the raw strength
 

Anlsvrthng

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Russia has a short temper and and does not wait, they dont have patience raw strength is the Russian way

China on the other hand will sit and wait for decades even centuries to get even, super patient super calculating

both these qualities of Russia + China will benefit each other and actually are complimentary, one is a bottom liner and other is a fine liner

this is why I say China should play the West, allow the West to be preoccupied and now all western nations will be even more preoccupied with Russia while China quality launches another 8 x Type 055

China is the financial muscle + Russia the raw strength
You start a war not because you have a choice, but because you haven't.
 
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