Ukrainian War Developments

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solarz

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Seriously, we need to stop giving Russia excuses for this type of performance. China electromagnetic warfare capabilities at this point is miles ahead of Russia. China routinely show far more advanced em capabilities in it's flyovers around Taiwan than what we are seeing from the Russians.

Do you think if china was attacking Ukraine and had their ew aircraft in the air after attacking air defense, Ukraine would still have functional air defense or be able to communicate with each other by this point?

I don't understand this argument. Russia obviously have their limitations, why should they be compared to the PLA?
 

Lapin

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@windsclouds2030 yup correct brother, why destroy something you owned and the Russia way of warfare is more humane and civilized than the much acclaimed US and NATO shock and awed, Just ask the Libyans, Serbian and the Iraqis.
Everyone, please stop talking about 'humane and civilized' warfare, regardless of one's tribal allegiances.

"War is hell. You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it."
--William Tecumseh Sherman

In solidarity, I would say: Ich bin eine Berlinerin.
 

solarz

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Everyone, please stop talking about 'humane and civilized' warfare, regardless of one's tribal allegiances.

"War is hell. You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it."
--William Tecumseh Sherman

In solidarity, I would say: Ich bin eine Berlinerin.

That makes it sound like all wars are equal, which it very clearly is not. Wars can be conducted with different degrees of humanitarianism in mind.
 

Zichan

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Ukraine has most likely been covertly acquiring and operating drones from outside their borders since the conflict started; avoiding Russian air defenses in the process; which could explain why they’ve been used to great effect thus far against Russian ground forces.
They should be able to quickly setup, launch and recover the TB-2 drones from highways.

I am still waiting for NATO to begin a lend-lease program to Ukraine and give them more capable drones.
 

Abominable

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An Ukrainian An-124 has been tracked several times since the conflict started, traveling from Tekirdag Corlu Airport in Turkey [Where TB-2 Bayraktar(s) are delivered to the Turkish Military] to Rzeszów-Jasionka Poland.

Ukraine has most likely been covertly acquiring and operating drones from outside their borders since the conflict started; avoiding Russian air defenses in the process; which could explain why they’ve been used to great effect thus far against Russian ground forces.
I've been saying this for a few days now. There's also been American A400s. I imagine Ukraine are able to deploy a much larger number of TB-2s than they are supposed to have, and Russia are keeping quiet about this (at least publically).

Compared to the Azeri conflict, how successful have they been? There hasn't been much footage of drone strikes, and none for the first 3-4 days.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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They should be able to quickly setup, launch and recover the TB-2 drones from highways.

I am still waiting for NATO to begin a lend-lease program to Ukraine and give them more capable drones.
The advantage of TB-2s is they can take off from highways, use munitions liftable by people and use gasoline.

More capable drones use jet fuel, need runways and have munitions too heavy for people to lift.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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And clear evidence is always given if you would look properly. But as it seems you didn't even checked their bio ... Oryx has a Dutch and not a Turkish analyst behind.
I have not seen Oryx criticizing Turkish military tactics nor military losses even though there were plenty. He just skips them completely. Meanwhile this guy made continuous jokes about Syrian/Russian military since 2015, when I started following him.

EDIT: Armenian loss as well. Honestly he is really off-putting and biased. I only follow him for information.
 
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