Ukrainian War Developments

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james smith esq

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The Ukrainians are still operating a small force of BUK missile systems; it’s possible that a MANPAD was used if the aircraft was flying at low altitude however it’s highly unlikely given the Su30-SM would not likely be used at an altitude sufficient enough.
Several of these, most recent, shoot-downs have occurred in the southeastern sector of operations. Does this indicate a thrust towards Odessa?

The Orlan looks more primitive than Iranian drones. SMH!!!

If anything, Russia’s conduct of this war is the most persuasive argument for NATO disbandment, ‘cause, from what I’m seein’, by the time Russia got to NATO’s borders, they’d be reduced to an Army of infantry.
 
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gelgoog

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Another possibility is that those fighters don't have good enough counter measures. I know the Indians at one point complained about lack of automatic chaff and flare dispensers in Russian aircraft. The Su-35 has MAWS but I don't know about the Su-30. I think the Su-30SM has it but I am not certain of it. Against an Osa even MAWS might be useless though.
 
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Kaeshmiri

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While the site seems to have content in Turkish and Japanese, I wasn't aware that it is a Turkish propaganda account site? What is your evidence for this? The two main authors appear to be Dutch based on their names. The main author has a Dutch name and a Jewish surname. The other guy has a Dutch name and a Turkish surname. They published a book on the North Korean armed forces - why would Turkey finance this?
Coz ive been following that account since 2018. I've seen their coverage of Turkish ops in Libya, Syria and Nagorno- Karbakh. Its definitely run by a Turkish nationalist.
 

T-U-P

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All claims as to who destroyed the An225 are based on speculation. There is no hard evidence on which side did the bombing that destroyed it, and I don't think we will get that kind of hard evidence any time soon. Propaganda on both sides will try to use it to their advantage. As a result, there's really no point having a back and forth discussion on it.
 

Stealthflanker

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Are the Russians intensifying their air campaign? Quite a few of their aircraft/helicopters are getting shot down lately. Or perhaps the Stinger shipments from NATO Europe have arrived to battlefield units.

I wonder. I dont even know how many aircraft they're comitted.

However it's so sad to see Su-34 loss, and apparently it's carrying Dumb bombs.. where it supposedly carries more modern KAB-500-S-E.
 

Stealthflanker

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Another possibility is that those fighters don't have good enough counter measures. I know the Indians at one point complained about lack of automatic chaff and flare dispensers in Russian aircraft. The Su-35 has MAWS but I don't know about the Su-30. I think the Su-30SM has it but I am not certain of it. Against an Osa even MAWS might be useless though.

or bad/late intelligence.

Ukrainian with NATO AEW and ESM support may set Their SAM's in good position and Only Emit when "prey" is coming.
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Like Russia needs to do something pronto about this informational advantages.
 
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