Ukrainian War Developments

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FriedButter

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Soviet-made weapons, is this left over stock from DDR?? Is it even functional?
Eastern Europe. Earlier they wanted to supply fighter jets to Ukraine but it had to come from former Soviet states because they aren’t trained for western jets. Those jets never came either because there is no extra.
 

tokenanalyst

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While this war will undoubtedly create much bad blood and an insurgency, insurgencies live and die by outside support
The problem is that insurgency only work well in very remote areas, the jungle, the mountains, the desert were the enemy had trouble moving forces, Ukraine is quite urbanized and flat.
If negotiations fail i think the Russians will just want to take a little more than half of the country, so Ukrainians who don't want to live in the Russian occupied part will be free to move to the European part.
We have to wait and see what happens, i hope they reach an agreement.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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I commented previously on the supposed difficulties the Russian navy is having with Chinese diesel engines, despite the fact that Chinese marine diesels do just fine on PLAN warships. As a DF-41 TEL shows, Chinese tires work just fine handling heavy loads. Between this and the diesels, it appears that the Russian military's procurement from China consists entirely of going on Alibaba and buying the cheapest thing they can find.

No, really, you can find them on Alibaba:
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I think once the East and South get under control the Russian Railway Troops will move in and fix the railways sabotaged by the Ukrainians to move more equipment and supplies in.


Europe is sending all its obsolete trash weapons to Ukraine courtesy of the European Union which setup a fund for this.
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They send obsolete weapons to Ukraine, that they would need to pay money to dispose of, and get cash in return. It is a steal really.
The logistics to actually deliver these weapons and their actual suitability for their defense? Not relevant. This "generous" EU support package is covered by the cynically named "European Peace Facility".
Yes, I think a lot of the east block countries will be secretly very happy with this. It is a repeat of the Afghan Soviet war where Egypt and Israel were able to get rid of a lot of obselete/captured stock for high prices.

Poland, Romania and the other one nearly hit the lottery. Get rid of junk Mig-29s, receive freshly refurbished F-16s for free. I bet they're still pissed about that.
Well the thing is all these years that they rotated troops in and out of Donbass the Ukrainians should have 400k trained personnel they could use. I hear reports the largest pocket in the East has 60K troops. Let us say this is 80-90K deployed. Where is the rest? How much equipment do they have? Are command structures and staff still operational? Should the Russians let them assemble and move so they can engage them as a mass and make the mop up easier? Of course they still have little chance. This is not the XIXth century anymore.
C&C - seems to be heavily disrupted. Americans have had difficulty passing on intelligence.
Soldiers - I suspect many have fled in the confusion or died. Pulling men out of refugee convoys, recruiting prisoners suggests a manpower problem.

Yeah, it's too late now from what I can see. My point was that basing out of the west rather than the east would have at least stretched Russian supply lines further and shortened Ukrainian ones.
Uh, I really doubt this. They knew the Ukrainians had their forces arrayed against the Donbass line and the rest was wide open. I say was because I suspect the Ukrainians might be aiming to concentrate resistance in the West close to Polish border and lines of supply from NATO. But... the thing is human losses in the West might be way more palatable to the Russian public than in the East and South. There is next to no Russian ethnic population there. The Russians could just decide to simply flatten the whole thing
Without air power? No way. Best place for defense in whole country is either inside the cities or in the swamps around Chernobyl. You can forget about the swamps since they already bypassed those. And the Russians have their two largest cities basically encircled.
Using ethnic Russian citizens as hostages Israeli style is sickening.
 

meckhardt98

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Odessa seems to be establishing a formidable defense network as a large force of Russian landing ships loiters off the coast.

They’ve undoubtedly had an advantage in being able to organize more effectively than other cities that were caught off guard by the initial invasion, allowing the city to be further reinforced with military forces since they’ve been relatively left alone since the beginning of the Russian invasion.

Only time will see however it’s likely they’ll be able to brunt the force of an initial landing force given Ukrainian forces most likely out number any marine landing force present in the Russian flotilla.

For reference the landing force assembled is most likely comprised of [1500-2000] naval infantry with a compliment of at-least a dozen armored vehicles. Russian landing ships can provide limited fire support however that may put them at risk to Ukrainian coastal defense batteries; assuming if any are still operational.
 

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