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Bellum_Romanum

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DW is probably the worst Western Media outlet these days. The fact that its German State Media probably indicates where Germany-China relations are headed.. Just today i saw them report on
1. China Metoo case.. Judiciary is CPC controlled, not fair or independent. Women have no rights.
2. Evergrand China economy collapse, bad policies by Xi,
3. Some Xinjiang activist and genocide blah blah

DW is now competing with Murdoch Media in spreading Sinophobia. Also majority of the times its some India anchor doing those segments.
Don't you find it perplexing and gnawing at times when all of what they describe happens in all democratically governed countries like the metoo movement, economic collapse (2008), Iraq illegal war and zillions more in the mideast that has cost and caused the wave of migrant refugees into the borders of Europe, no one dares to question or asked if their political system is on the brink of any collapse or must be toppled in order to achieve some kind of political nirvana.

The charges of China's political system being so fragile and weak has no basis in historical analysis or actual appreciation of the CPC strength in China. The country and the party had went through the great leap forward, the cultural revolution two seminal events that cost China significant amount of human casualties, yet the party and the country survived. So all of these challenges that China is facing looks like heaven compared to where they were decades ago. The Chinese people know this fact with the exception of the western leaning fanatical Chinese who frankly don't live in reality but in a fictionalized world of Netflix/Hollywood.
 

taxiya

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Sure, they are MAJOR ally. They were also under the US nuclear umbrella and were on course to become the five eyes' 'sixth eye', lol
Now you want to move the debate to "Japan becoming sixth eye" which was never in the original debate. This is the annoyance that many members here including me feel about you, moving the goal post, drifting the debate away from the original subject.

I see it, and I won't follow.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I don't think @escobar is inherently anti-China or pro-China or even pro-west/America on this great game currently unfolding. Perhaps we should ask @escobar what actions he would have preferred China taken giving the current circumstances the country is dealing with and why his policy recommendations and actions have the probability of attaining the desired effect that in his mind China has failed or continuously failed to capitalize and pounce on to create the desired outcome.
 

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I don't think anyone did anything dodgy here. Between F-35A and Rafale I think the choice is clear.

It's just you know, the timing is unfortunate.

This seems like fake news.

The Swiss are the Swiss, meaning they will keep everyone's money in their banks and keep the mouths shut.

The Swiss are the only ones who can do that because they are always neutral no matter what.

To buy F-35 from the Americans means they are not neutral anymore.
 

Xizor

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DW is probably the worst Western Media outlet these days. The fact that its German State Media probably indicates where Germany-China relations are headed.. Just today i saw them report on
1. China Metoo case.. Judiciary is CPC controlled, not fair or independent. Women have no rights.
2. Evergrand China economy collapse, bad policies by Xi,
3. Some Xinjiang activist and genocide blah blah

DW is now competing with Murdoch Media in spreading Sinophobia. Also majority of the times its some India anchor doing those segments.
Never blame the anchor. Blame the editor.

The EDITOR. The Chief Editor. Or the Asia affairs Editor.
 

Gatekeeper

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The fall out isn't unique to France. India is questioning why they didn't get the nuclear tech they sought. Lol Jai Hind.

The Indian Navy's indigenously built, diesel-electric, Scorpene attack submarine at Mazagon Dock in Mumbai. Photo: Xinhua


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Aukus fallout: for years, US told India it couldn’t share nuclear submarine technology. ‘And now this ...’​

  • Deal between Australia, the US and Britain to share nuclear-powered submarine technology has some in India asking why it hasn’t been granted similar access to US technology
  • But some point out that India, which leases nuclear subs from Russia, stands to benefit from Aukus as it appears aimed at countering China in the region

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acquisition of at least eight nuclear-powered submarines as part of a new, trilateral defence pact with the
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has prompted soul-searching in New Delhi about how India should react.

New Delhi has not officially responded to the Aukus partnership that will see Australia ramping up its deterrence capabilities, at a time when the US and its allies are seeking to counter
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rising influence in the region.

Shekhar Sinha, a retired vice-admiral and former commander in the Indian Navy, said the nuclear-powered submarines would have a “significant impact” on the balance of power in the Indo-Pacific. But former Indian naval chief Arun Prakash, in a Twitter post last week, suggested the partnership may have disgruntled New Delhi.

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escobar

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Now you want to move the debate to "Japan becoming sixth eye" which was never in the original debate. This is the annoyance that many members here including me feel about you, moving the goal post, drifting the debate away from the original subject.

I see it, and I won't follow.
Theatrical. The original debate were about how many allies US has lost because of back-stabbing that could have been great for CN. Any serious or intellectually honest person would have understood that it was a about the traditional and old allies US used against CN. And I got a crowd of some dudes talking about the unstable country Afghanistan which became a major US ally in 2012. And they were pretty excited about this crap. And I'am supposed to take them seriously, lol
 

BoraTas

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The fall out isn't unique to France. India is questioning why they didn't get the nuclear tech they sought. Lol Jai Hind.

The Indian Navy's indigenously built, diesel-electric, Scorpene attack submarine at Mazagon Dock in Mumbai. Photo: Xinhua's indigenously built, diesel-electric, Scorpene attack submarine at Mazagon Dock in Mumbai. Photo: Xinhua

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Aukus fallout: for years, US told India it couldn’t share nuclear submarine technology. ‘And now this ...’​

  • Deal between Australia, the US and Britain to share nuclear-powered submarine technology has some in India asking why it hasn’t been granted similar access to US technology
  • But some point out that India, which leases nuclear subs from Russia, stands to benefit from Aukus as it appears aimed at countering China in the region

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Published: 8:30pm, 20 Sep, 2021​

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acquisition of at least eight nuclear-powered submarines as part of a new, trilateral defence pact with the​

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has prompted soul-searching in New Delhi about how India should react.​

New Delhi has not officially responded to the Aukus partnership that will see Australia ramping up its deterrence capabilities, at a time when the US and its allies are seeking to counter
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rising influence in the region.​

Shekhar Sinha, a retired vice-admiral and former commander in the Indian Navy, said the nuclear-powered submarines would have a “significant impact” on the balance of power in the Indo-Pacific. But former Indian naval chief Arun Prakash, in a Twitter post last week, suggested the partnership may have disgruntled New Delhi.​

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India's relations to the US are not comparable to Australia's relations at all. Australia and the US are de facto allies since Australia was a dominion. They fought together in countless conflicts. Just as important as this they speak the same language and have very similar cultures. India has no such relations with the USA. It doesn't have even a formal security treaty with the US. It still buys S-400s and leases Russian submarines. Only the Indian media could ask that why the US didn't share SSN tech with India. The USA doesn't share even a lot less secretive tech with NATO members.
 
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