Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Bellum_Romanum

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Another American exceptionalism example, Texas style. Dumb and arrogant Americans would never accept culpability or responsibility for the mess they have created and inflicted upon the world. Their insane half baked pseudo science, not to mention the f..ked up shit about the use of a horse dewormer as the more effective medicine against covid-19 is just beyond bizarre.


 

PiSigma

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This is what happens if you let the virus loose. This city has stopped all elective surgeries and is poaching nurses form other provinces with high wages to come over because they are on the brink of collapse. This is in a high resources province in a high resource country.
You in Calgary too?
 

Quickie

Colonel
EU is looking into the possible side effects of mRNA vaccines in relation to the inflammation of the heart and kidney problems but still stressing benefits outweigh the risk.

That may be the case for Europe but for China with its almost nonexistent cases of infection, inactivated vaccines, possibly working with booster shots as appropriate, are probably the better choice over the mRNA vaccines.

In the comment section, one chap mentions about 2 vaccinated youngsters (in Singapore) having come down with serious heart inflammation/heart attack with one of them ending up dead. In China's case with its huge population, that number of people could be amplified like 1400/5 times had the country been using mRNA vaccines.

 
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Phead128

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How many super multivalent boosters are needed against
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? (Don't ask me how India's NCDC distinguishes between a variant and a mutation.)

Bro, there isn't 6,000 variants that make any clinically meaningful difference in terms of transmissibility or virulence.

You know why Indian claims of +6000 variants of COVID is BS?
  1. The RNA genome of SARS-CoV-2 only has
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    encoding for 29 proteins - if any nucleotides undergoes mutation, the result can be seen as a "New Variant", even if the mutation does not result in changes in protein structure or increased transmissibility or lethality.
  2. There is no formal definition of what counts as a "variant" or "strain", so any mutation can be seen as a 'new variant', even if they don't change anything in practical terms.
  3. There is only
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    variants of Influenza A (the subtype that causes influenza pandemics), and therefore no way that COVID variants can outnumber Influenza variants which mutate/evolves way faster.
So in conclusion, there isn't 6,000 variants that really matter, the vast majority (e.g. 99.9%) do not have any increase transmissibility or virulence that makes them variants of concern. Therefore, applying the booster-strategy with tailored-vaccines for dominant variants is an excellent strategy to contain the virus and bring things back to normalcy.
 
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Nutrient

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So in conclusion, there isn't 6,000 variants that really matter, the vast majority (e.g. 99.9%) do not have any increase transmissibility or virulence that makes them variants of concern. Therefore, applying the booster-strategy with tailored-vaccines for dominant variants is an excellent strategy to contain the virus and bring things back to normalcy.

Nonsense. Opening the Middle Kingdom -- with or without a zillion boosters -- is a terrible strategy. It only takes one lethal and transmissible variant to kill tens of millions of people. With 24,000 mutations just from India, the probability of deadly variants goes up enormously. It's utterly irresponsible to add China's billion people to a global reservoir that's already of gigantic size.
 

getready

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Myocarditis is a most well known serious side effect of Pfizer mRNA vaccine as far as I know. It's seem to predominantly affecting young male although at very low rate. But we dun know the full story I suspect
 

winword

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Myocarditis is a most well known serious side effect of Pfizer mRNA vaccine as far as I know. It's seem to predominantly affecting young male although at very low rate. But we dun know the full story I suspect
There is at least another rare (probably rarer than myocarditis) yet serious side effect: thrombocytopenia.
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