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supercat

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Inactivated vaccines are a lot more difficult to make than mRNA vaccines, because it requires mass culture and inactivation of live viruses, which require extremely rigorous safety levels. I've read that only China has the capability to produce inactivated vaccines on such a large scale.
This really makes the fact much more amazing that China will help Egypt to produce 1.2 billion doses of Sinovac vaccines a year.

Egypt said Wednesday it plans to manufacture one billion doses a year of China's Sinovac vaccine, claiming it would become the Middle East and Africa's "biggest vaccine producer".

Under the deal with the Chinese pharmaceutical company, a factory in Cairo will produce more than 200 million doses per year to cover "national needs", Health Minister Hala Zayed told a press conference.
A second factory will produce three million doses per day, "or around a billion a year", with a view to exporting the vaccine for Covid-19 and responding to demand in Africa, Zayed added.

The move would make Egypt "the biggest vaccine producer in the Middle East and Africa", an official statement said.
Heba Wali, the doctor in charge of the project, said the Egyptian drug authority had given its go-ahead and that "one million doses have already been distributed in Egypt".

Chinese experts had previously traveled to Egypt to inspect equipment and materials for producing the Sinovac vaccine at factories belonging to state firm Vacsera.
Egypt, with a population of over 100 million, has officially recorded more than 288,000 Covid-19 cases, including over 16,700 deaths.
Some 7.5 million Egyptians have had at least one vaccine.

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Just to recap. There are at least three (probably more) Chinese vaccine candidates in phase III trials. Walvax's mRNA vaccine, unlike the other two, has yet to publish its phase I and phase II results.

Clover's candidate and Livzon's candidate are similar in their neutralizing antibodies count but Clover uses American adjuvants so it's unlikely to use domestic use in China, although it has already secured a 400+ million order from GAVI. I'm not sure about Walvax's supply chain but I think they'll want to use as little as US components as possible.

Livzon is very interesting in that it uses traditional adjuvant but produces similar level of neutralizing antibodies as Clover's. Protein subunit vaccines are probably the easiest ones to mass produce and if Livzon's vaccine is successful China will have a winner.
 

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Just to recap. There are at least three (probably more) Chinese vaccine candidates in phase III trials. Walvax's mRNA vaccine, unlike the other two, has yet to publish its phase I and phase II results.

Clover's candidate and Livzon's candidate are similar in their neutralizing antibodies count but Clover uses American adjuvants so it's unlikely to use domestic use in China, although it has already secured a 400+ million order from GAVI. I'm not sure about Walvax's supply chain but I think they'll want to use as little as US components as possible.

Livzon is very interesting in that it uses traditional adjuvant but produces similar level of neutralizing antibodies as Clover's. Protein subunit vaccines are probably the easiest ones to mass produce and if Livzon's vaccine is successful China will have a winner.

I didnt realize there was phase II results for both Livzon and SCB-2019, can you provide a link?
 

ansy1968

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From my favorite doctor Sinovac is effective against Delta, third dose is unnecessary cause we need to vaccinated a lot of people first, maybe in 2023. Right now our cases is high due to lack of vaccine.

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supersnoop

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Mainland vaccines in Taiwan.
Did you read about the desperate things the DPP regime is doing?

They are removing all simplified Chinese labeling/stickers from the crates
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They also removed this BionTech/Fosun banner from the shipment before the press conference
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The Fosun logo isn't even large or prominent, but the vegetable regime seems to be really taking a big hit between the summer outbreak and the US failure in Afghanistan.
 

KYli

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Vietnam has only vaccinated 3% of its population. If Vietnamese government decided to reopen and abandon the lockdown, the spike of cases would be disaster for the country. It is sad that Vietnamese government has allowed nationalism and MSM to control the narrative and not procured Chinese vaccines to use as a stopgap to tame the spread of covid-19.
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HybridHypothesis

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Shipping crises caused by China closing ports for coronavirus is reaching a fever pitch and might actually cause a deflationary crises across the world before the year ends.

Is there an actual plan behind these shutdowns, or is the PRC ran by loonies that believe even a single case warrants a lockdown? I don't see a reason for jeopardizing the global supply chains that are China's only leverage over the world
 
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