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windsclouds2030

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caudaceus

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Do we have specific Afghanistan thread?

If not I'd like to ask whether Taliban do have tendencies to spark terrorism beyond Afghanistan border or they are content to simply rule within Afghanistan? I have seen some hot takes that Taliban victories will mean conflict with Iran, Russia, China and other central Asia regions.

Seems people conflate alqaeda and Isis with Taliban
 

horse

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I think the Taliban and Chinese gov saw right thru the trick and hence the meeting/formal recognition.

I doubt there was a trick.

There was no trick. There was no nothing.

Maybe there was some Fantasy Island, like a desert mirage. But who knows what the plan was. If it lasted 20 years, surely there had to be a plan at some point. Hehe.

They lost the hearts and mind of the people and lost the country.

After 20 years, there just was not much of any terrorist activity coming out of Afghanistan. Afghanistan under American rule proved to not be a source of instability for the region.

Seems to me there are only two lessons right now.

The big one is the obvious one, guerilla war and hearts and minds.

The minor lesson is the excuses we are seeing. It was a good idea for the Americans to stay in Afghanistan for 20 years because it can destabilize the region. That is just empty words and excuses to deflect from the FUBAR.
 

Gatekeeper

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Well. This is it then? It looks like no one is leaving no matter how much they have paid.

From RT:

US Embassy warns Americans in Kabul to take shelter, says airport reportedly UNDER FIRE amid hasty evacuation of western missions

The US Embassy in Kabul has warned Americans heading for the city’s airport to shelter in place instead, stating that the airport was “taking fire.” The airport is packed with foreign workers hurrying out of Afghanistan.

“The security situation in Kabul is changing quickly, including at the airport,” read a security alert from the embassy on Sunday. “There are reports of the airport taking fire; therefore we are instructing US citizens to shelter in place.”

The embassy had for days been urging Americans in Afghanistan to leave the country, offering them assistance in purchasing plane tickets out. As the Taliban encircled the Afghan capital on Sunday, helicopters ferried embassy staff to the airport, where the US’ diplomatic mission would be rehoused.

The evacuation took place under the protection of thousands of American troops, ordered in by President Joe Biden as the Taliban advanced faster than the US could get its staff out.

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horse

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All we can say about the Chinese, is the CCP demonstrated some more foresight, when a Taliban delegation was hosted in Tianjin.

That is the real interesting part.

The Chinese had no idea what was really going on. It was a war, and it is the fog of war. Yet, they made the right move, and the best move.

The Americans were occupying the country with collaborators, and it went FUBAR.

China does not want to approach whatever challenges Afghanistan may present to the region alone, China wants everyone onboard. There will be a collective effort to Afghanistan in the neighbourhood.

The Americans out, everyone else in, to create the win-win outcome for Afghanistan and the region.

:D:oops:
 
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