Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

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KYli

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NYT is again trying to demonize Chinese vaccines. Mongolia has only started vaccination a couple months ago with most of its population not fully vaccinated yet or only fully vaccinated in recent days.
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plawolf

plawolf

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Higgle said:
I can only speak for what was going on in China. But it sounds like there were serious issues with the procurement process in the UK.

For one, none of the masks made here had a "best before" date. The government mandates that certain information must be included on the packaging, including date of production, place of origin, validity period (usually 2 years or 18 months from production date), model name and number, etc. Wherever your masks were sourced from, they clearly had some serious QC issues.

I contacted the NHS and procurement channels in the UK multiple times in June 2020. Same response every time: "We have enough supply of masks, don't need more thanks." Clearly there was a severe shortage on the ground, yet these institutions weren't willing to buy more. Or maybe it was due to political reasons that they didn't want to buy from a Chinese exporter, and preferred to continue struggling with a shortage instead?

I agree that the first few batches of masks were abysmal. In my factory we struggled to get the manufacturing right for the first few weeks but after experience with supplying the domestic market, the quality gradually became better for export. By April 2020 there weren't any more major defects (e.g. ear loops coming off, metal strip falling out).
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Unless you were Hancock’s sister or local pub owner, good luck securing a contract. The kind of blatant profiteering and cronyism that was displayed would have shamed the worst banana republic dictator to be frank.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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Instead of ordering 500 million doses of Pfizer for COVAX, why doesn't Biden just take from what the US is hoarding for itself. Why Pfizer and not the more durable one-shot Johnson and Johnson? Notice J&J is hardly in the picture anymore? How long will it take when the richer countries orders haven't been fulfilled yet? How many people around the world are going to die waiting? What it means is the US cannot guarantee it. Biden has to announce it now because in the end if this order is ever fulfilled, it won't have the same impact as announcing it now.

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COVID-19 has really exposed a lot of truths and not just the handling of it. The West is full of bullsh*t the majority of the time. They say the best case scenario just in hopes it comes true not that they know it will happen.
 
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