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Bellum_Romanum

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Haha these Western think tanks are ridiculous
They are having wet dreams about Democracy and how Xi is destroying China, and that Xi political position is not that strong in China lol

Hahahahaha
I especially despise that Elizabeth f..ng b word due to her inability to understand and appreciate China for what it is and not what it wants to project it to be. Tiang Bao is a hard-core converter of the American democracy b.s. nothing he days was or is ever original. He sounds line Minxin Pei and Gordon Chang's illegitimate son.
 

taxiya

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Industrial commodity prices extended sharp losses on Monday both in China and abroad, after officials in China, the world's factory floor and largest consumer of raw materials, intensified a top-down campaign to rein in runaway prices that have already exerted pressure on factories and businesses and further threaten to derail China's hard-fought economic recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic.

The latest effort by Chinese officials to further step up the crackdown on what they call excessive speculation in the commodity markets came after repeated warnings and actions by local governments and industry bodies over the past several weeks failed to bring prices down to a "reasonable" range, and risks posed by the soaring prices for the Chinese economy continue to emerge, analysts noted. In a rare step, five Chinese agencies on Sunday warned leading companies not to engage in price gouging.

Further highlighting China's commitment to tackling soaring commodity prices, Premier Li Keqiang on Monday inspected a major port in Ningbo, East China's Zhejiang Province on Monday and heard reports on trend in global commodity prices.

During the tour, Li also highlighted the impact of high commodity prices on factories and asked the port to improve import and storage operations, according to an official statement.

While China's efforts are aimed at stabilizing the domestic commodity markets to stave off potential risks, they could also help end a months-long rally in global commodity prices, analysts said. Major suppliers, particularly Australia - which has enjoyed record-high prices for its main export to China, iron ore, despite losses in other trade--could feel the pain, they added. Australia's days of "profiteering" may be marked, an expert said.

China crackdown

Global and domestic commodity markets already took a cue from China's broadening crackdown. On Monday, prices for most commodity futures fell sharply in China, led by an over 5 percent drop for iron ore. Prices of several other commodity futures, including hot-rolled coil, declined by over 3 percent. Global industrial metal prices also declined on Monday, with three-month copper prices on London's metal exchange were down 0.3 percent and aluminum dropping 2.3 percent, according to Reuters.

The extended losses on Monday followed the latest signal from Chinese officials that they are stepping up efforts to rein in soaring commodity prices. On Sunday, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), the top economic planner, along with four other departments held a meeting with industry leaders and vowed to severely punish excessive speculation, price gouging and other violations that helped lift prices.

Regulators would adopt a "zero tolerance" toward illegal activities and strengthen regulation of abnormal transactions and malicious speculation, the NDRC said in a statement.

The move came after the State Council, China cabinet, paid special attention to rising commodity prices in two back-to-back executive meetings, calling for effective measures to stabilize commodity markets. The intensified efforts also followed earlier warnings and efforts by some local authorities and industry bodies which failed to bring down prices, leading to intensified efforts from higher authorities.

"With the world's largest manufacturing sector, China has been bearing the brunt of soaring raw material prices. The impact on the real economy is very significant, with companies and consumers set to be hurt," Liu Xuezhi, a senior macroeconomic analyst at Bank of Communications, told the Global Times on Monday, adding that nothing less than China's hard-fought economic recovery from the COVID-19 is at stake.

Soaring raw material prices have already dramatically pushed up costs for many factories, particularly small and medium-sized businesses. There have also been increasing signs that rising raw material prices could push up consumer prices, as some companies raised prices for a wide range of products, including refrigerators, washers and bicycles, citing rising costs.

In April, factory-gate prices in the country surged 6.8 percent year-on-year, the fastest pace in over three years, raising concerns that high raw material prices could dampen the economic recovery and push up consumer prices.

That rising raw material prices threaten China's main growth drivers and pose serious risks to economic recovery spurred a series of efforts by top officials, experts noted. Warning signs of global inflation, particularly from the US, which could also seriously impact China's economic operations, also added urgency to Chinese officials to act swiftly, the experts added.

"Rising commodity prices have affected many aspects of people's daily life," Ren Zeping, dean of the Evergrande Research Institute, said in an interview, noting that while a global economic recovery has pushed up demand for commodities and in turn lifted prices, the main reason behind the price surge lies on the supply side and market speculation. For example, COVID-19 pandemic in major suppliers such as Brazil and India also squeezed supplies, Ren noted.

While commodity prices are set by the global market, as the world's largest consumer, China's crackdown on speculations and other market manipulation could also send chilling waves across the globe, experts said.

"Certainly, China's actions will have a significant impact on global commodity prices," particularly exports that rely heavily on China's demand, Liu said.

Australia's pain

Among the most affected could be iron ore exports from Australia, which has benefited massively from the sky-high prices in its main export - emboldening officials in Canberra to continue on their relentless provocation against China.

"Due to unreasonable global iron ore prices, Australia's iron ore exporters have profited greatly. However, such profiteering will not last very long," Chen Hong, a professor and director of the Australian Studies Center at East China Normal University, told the Global Times on Monday.

Australia is the world's largest iron ore producer and the largest supplier of China. In the first four months of the year, China imported 229 million tons of iron ore from Australia, or nearly 60 percent of its total imports, according to Wang Guoqing, research director at the Beijing Lange Steel Information Research Center.

That has singlehandedly helped save Australia's trade amid tense relations with China that has impacted trade in many areas, according to experts and media reports. In April, for example, China's imports from Australia rose by over 49.3 percent, mainly because of high iron ore prices.

While China's reliance on Australian iron ore will likely continue in the foreseeable future, despite its efforts to diversify sources, sharp drops in iron ore prices would mean heavy losses in export revenue for Australia, which is already seeing declining trade with China in areas such as wine and seafood, experts noted.

For example, iron ore prices fell by about $9.25 per ton last week following the State Council meeting; that could translate into a loss of over $2 billion in extra revenue for Australia based on the amount of exports to China in the first four months of 2021. If prices fell from about $200 per ton last week to about $60 per ton during the same time last year, losses in revenue could have been over $32 billion.

Reflecting the potential impact on Australian iron ore exports to China, shares prices of main Australian iron ore producers fell on Monday following China's latest efforts to rein in prices. Shares of Rio Tinto in Australia fell by 1.46 percent on Monday, while BHP Group's shares dropped by 1 percent.

In addition to the impact from declining prices, China's reliance on Australian iron ore will decline over time, as the country moves to expand sources of supplies, experts said.

"China's diversifying import system will have the key impact on the reduction of China's imports of Australian iron ore," Wang told the Global Times on Monday, noting Australia iron ore's proportion of China's total import is already declining slightly.

Australia's proportion of China's iron ore imports dropped below 60 percent for the first time in the first four months of 2021 and as China continues to diversify supplies, this could further drop to below 50 percent in the next few years, experts said.
I yearn the good? old days when "price speculation" was termed "投机倒把" and was punishable by hard labor camp.
 

voyager1

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I yearn the good? old days when "price speculation" was termed "投机倒把" and was punishable by hard labor camp.
As long as any normal person or institution can buy commodities when clearly it is not their line of business thats what happens

Why are investement funds betting on commodity prices getting higher or lower when these commodities are not supposed to be used by them...
 

supersnoop

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The news on the shepherd saving lives is popping out from Chinese sources. Western media didn't really need to work for it and are basically repeating the story.

Anyone think it's crazy that some extreme marathon killed more people than a 7.3 magnitude earthquake?
Just to put into context, 6.9 was enough to collapse the Bay Bridge in 1989 and kill ~60 people in the USA.
Sichuan in 2008 was 8.0.
Earthquakes are measured in log scale, so 1 pt - 10x the power.
 

horse

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Anyone think it's crazy that some extreme marathon killed more people than a 7.3 magnitude earthquake?
Just to put into context, 6.9 was enough to collapse the Bay Bridge in 1989 and kill ~60 people in the USA.
Sichuan in 2008 was 8.0.
Earthquakes are measured in log scale, so 1 pt - 10x the power.

That is why China is still a Third World country in many respects, and in many places. What happened here with the athletes was extremely backwards.

Too bad this was not the old days, because an official there in Gansu should be executed, a few would be a good start.

I like to ride my bicycle. Before I ride my bicycle, I check the weather. Sometimes I would ride in the Canadian winter. If it is -5°C that is probably the limit of how low the temperate would be if I would to go for a ride, maybe a 10km to 25km route. That is what always do, and I am no athlete. I always check the wind too. If the wind is 25km/h then that is a strong wind. If the wind is 35km/h then it is really hard to ride the bicycle.

Did the athletes who died, never checked the weather reports before going out? Of course they do.

But in this race, they all assumed that the officials did their preparations and it was a tough course but safe course. Athletes died, healthy people in top shape. They trusted the race officials and got killed.

Some one has to pay and be punished. The more people executed the better.

:mad:


Even more worked up now at the end of the post.

That is why you execute the backwards official, and eradicate all of this Third World mentality.

If you do not execute the backwards official, the very best, in this case China's top distance runners, then they get eliminated.

What kind of future is that when you kill your best?

Emperor Xi, brings out the execution sword!!!

:mad::mad:
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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That is why China is still a Third World country in many respects, and in many places. What happened here with the athletes was extremely backwards.

Too bad this was not the old days, because an official there in Gansu should be executed, a few would be a good start.

I like to ride my bicycle. Before I ride my bicycle, I check the weather. Sometimes I would ride in the Canadian winter. If it is -5°C that is probably the limit of how low the temperate would be if I would to go for a ride, maybe a 10km to 25km route. That is what always do, and I am no athlete. I always check the wind too. If the wind is 25km/h then that is a strong wind. If the wind is 35km/h then it is really hard to ride the bicycle.

Did the athletes who died, never checked the weather reports before going out? Of course they do.

But in this race, they all assumed that the officials did their preparations and it was a tough course but safe course. Athletes died, healthy people in top shape. They trusted the race officials and got killed.

Some one has to pay and be punished. The more people executed the better.

:mad:


Even more worked up now at the end of the post.

That is why you execute the backwards official, and eradicate all of this Third World mentality.

If you do not execute the backwards official, the very best, in this case China's top distance runners, then they get eliminated.

What kind of future is that when you kill your best?

Emperor Xi, brings out the execution sword!!!

:mad::mad:
What actions or inactions did the officials make that may have led or in some people's opinion responsible for the unfortunate and untimely passing of those athletes.

And what constitute the actions the officials taken or not as backwards or even idiotic in your view. I am genuinely asking because I feel your confusion and annoyance at the wasted lives dying from a preventable death.
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
That is why China is still a Third World country in many respects, and in many places. What happened here with the athletes was extremely backwards.

Too bad this was not the old days, because an official there in Gansu should be executed, a few would be a good start.

I like to ride my bicycle. Before I ride my bicycle, I check the weather. Sometimes I would ride in the Canadian winter. If it is -5°C that is probably the limit of how low the temperate would be if I would to go for a ride, maybe a 10km to 25km route. That is what always do, and I am no athlete. I always check the wind too. If the wind is 25km/h then that is a strong wind. If the wind is 35km/h then it is really hard to ride the bicycle.

Did the athletes who died, never checked the weather reports before going out? Of course they do.

But in this race, they all assumed that the officials did their preparations and it was a tough course but safe course. Athletes died, healthy people in top shape. They trusted the race officials and got killed.

Some one has to pay and be punished. The more people executed the better.

:mad:


Even more worked up now at the end of the post.

That is why you execute the backwards official, and eradicate all of this Third World mentality.

If you do not execute the backwards official, the very best, in this case China's top distance runners, then they get eliminated.

What kind of future is that when you kill your best?

Emperor Xi, brings out the execution sword!!!

:mad::mad:
Be careful with the execution punishment.

Most often than not these are more of systemic failures than individuals' fault

First did regulations exist for this kind of sport activity?
If it didnt, why it didnt? Was the central gov at fault, which ministry, which department, which person. Was is the local gov, which department, which person.

Then why did these people didnt regulate it?Was it because of incompetence, because of interests lobbying, party committee shenanigans? Was there any procedure for determining which sport should be regulated, the process, managements etc

Then why did none of the officials involved spotted the problem of temperature? Was it because of incompetence, training, lack of regulating powers etc

You see now why this seemingly "simple" thing is actually so complex that it involves so many variables, people, systems (mainly this), procedures, politics etc

Execution is just the easy solution.
"Ah yes just send him to the afterlife"

If bad apples keep coming up, maybe the farmer should stop blaming the apples themselves and focus on the Tree itself, is it healthy, soil, water, nutrition etc

This is why I dont like the punishment of "Execution" on things like these. It allows the politicians and administrators to cover up their past failures by directing the people anger to some low-level officials
 

Quickie

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Anyone think it's crazy that some extreme marathon killed more people than a 7.3 magnitude earthquake?
Just to put into context, 6.9 was enough to collapse the Bay Bridge in 1989 and kill ~60 people in the USA.
Sichuan in 2008 was 8.0.
Earthquakes are measured in log scale, so 1 pt - 10x the power.

The news is that they suddenly got hit by freak weather, which seems to be confirmed by the shepherd. Otherwise, if the kind of weather is known to be somewhat of a norm at that locality, someone's head may be on the chopping board.

Btw, the shepherd reminds me of a Shaolin monk disciple, which is kind of cool as he did save a number of lives. :D
 
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horse

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What actions or inactions did the officials make that may have led or in some people's opinion responsible for the unfortunate and untimely passing of those athletes.

And what constitute the actions the officials taken or not as backwards or even idiotic in your view. I am genuinely asking because I feel your confusion and annoyance at the wasted lives dying from a preventable death.

People died, because they were running through the woods or mountains, because they did not know any better of the conditions of the area.

Gansu probably is not where all these runners came from, races like this attract runners from everywhere.

If there are wild animals in the woods, and the race organizers did not bother to tell the runners, that is negligence and recklessness. If the runner came from somewhere else, how would they know?

The only people who would know about local weather conditions are the locals, and the local officials approved of the race.

The runners trusted the local officials this was a safe route. It was not. Someone is going to pay.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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People died, because they were running through the woods or mountains, because they did not know any better of the conditions of the area.

Gansu probably is not where all these runners came from, races like this attract runners from everywhere.

If there are wild animals in the woods, and the race organizers did not bother to tell the runners, that is negligence and recklessness. If the runner came from somewhere else, how would they know?

The only people who would know about local weather conditions are the locals, and the local officials approved of the race.

The runners trusted the local officials this was a safe route. It was not. Someone is going to pay.
But don't they have access to weather reports on their phones like we do in the west? Heck, living in Canada during winter season is important to know if and when we're getting snow fall so that we can plan ahead in terms of transportation etc. You telling me that Chinese people in that particular part of China lack access to Beidou satellite system?

How about the organizer of the event? Isn't the organizers responsibility and fiduciary duty to ensure the safety and studying the operational feasibility of the area where the event was to take place? No f..ng Google maps like system to check the whole area? How about asking the local people who would know best with respect to the safety of conducting such event.

I sincerely hope that both the organizers and government officials who gave the go ahead will be investigated to determine if there was clear dereliction of duty resulting into the deaths of our fellow people. Most importantly, there must be safety, policy, recommendations learned and enforced for future events like this to prevent such tragedy from ever occurring again wherever they maybe held in China.
 
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