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[voyager1]

Because if Saudi and Iran stop fighting each other, who do you think becomes their new common enemy no1?

Lmao have you forgotten the Abraham Accords? Saudi Arabia itself wants to join it but it is held back by its internal political affairs.

And yes while Saudi Arabia and Iran have stopped fighting this doesn't mean that they will suddenly join hands against Israel !!
Just some months ago Iran was bombing Saudi Arabia by its proxies. To now say that they will team up its kindergarden logic

if not China actively going out of its way to damage Israeli interests in the ME.

Actively going to damage Israel interests?? Lmao! The Iran deal was a strategic necessity for China in order to break US encirclement, the whole region understand this and they didn't jump into the China hate train but instead consulted with China to see how they move on from there.
China has already pacified them which is why you see the whole Middle East region changing from geopolitics to geoeconomics WITHOUT antagonising China

Here is a link to read more about China-Israel growing economic and techbological cooperation

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Chinese investments in Israel have grown substantially and include investments in high-tech companies that produce sensitive technologies as well as the construction and operation of key infrastructure projects

Chinese investment in sensitive technologies and construction of major Israeli infrastructure projects present distinct concerns for Israel and the United States [Lmao the Americans crying]

Israel seeks to expand its diplomatic, economic, and strategic ties with the world's fastest-growing major economy and diversify its export markets and investments.

Stop with your misinformed opinions and do some more research before start spewing falsehoods to this forum.

China-Israel relations are fine. And if they deteriorate it will be more because of massive US pressure than because Israel wants to. However so far Israel has resisted US and told it go pound sand.

"Muh Israel is the enemy"

 

[Temstar]

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That wasn’t just prolific in social media, or throughout the country during this past year, but it was spreading throughout the United States military. And I had recognized those narratives as being Marxist in nature.

Dat spectre of communism tho

 

[ansy1968]

You can believe what you like , but can you name any major deals between Israel and China since the Phalcan deal calamity?

Arms sales to Iran are not just tied to Israel, but the other, far more important consideration for China is Saudi Arabia. But you can see the general direction of travel where China is trying to get the two to come to an accord, which will be massively be problematic for Israel if successful. Because if Saudi and Iran stop fighting each other, who do you think becomes their new common enemy no1?

Unlike western nations, China speaks with actions rather than words when it has made a decision. So it’s when China stops talking about damaged relations and hurt feelings that you need to worry. Chinese diplomatic words to Israel have been conspicuous in its absence while its actions paint a very consistent and powerful picture of China not really caring what its moves does to Israeli interests any more, if not China actively going out of its way to damage Israeli interests in the ME.

@plawolf Sir from unofficial sources, both Iran and Saudi Arabia are talking and Assad is being allowed back to the Arab league. MBS wants out of his Yemen war and I think China has a role as a facilitator. So both Russia and now China is making it happen for a peaceful middle east instead of the American, What a shocker!!!!

 

[voyager1]

@plawolf Sir from unofficial sources, both Iran and Saudi Arabia are talking and Assad is being allowed back to the Arab league. MBS wants out of his Yemen war and I think China has a role as a facilitator. So both Russia and now China is making it happen for a peaceful middle east instead of the American, What a shocker!!!!

Exactly. The Arab States seems to have wisen up these days.

From Geopolitics to Geoeconomics

 

[sinophilia]

Exactly. The Arab States seems to have wisen up these days.

From Geopolitics to Geoeconomics

Notice it’s only monarchies.... if they are ever overthrown you better believe they’ll be back to trying to fuck over Israel.

At the end of the day the Muslim World has an economy of >10x the Israeli one and that gap is set to increase. Huge potential for China.

Israel’s tiny economy makes it useless other than to utilize their human capital. After they declared themselves for the US in blood that small honeymoon became permanently over. China can’t ever expect transfer of knowledge from them again so what’s the point?

Alienating almost 2 billion people for 15 million? Nah.

 

[ansy1968]

Exactly. The Arab States seems to have wisen up these days.

From Geopolitics to Geoeconomics

@voyager1 bro who won't, after being played and tossed around, first with Obama with JCPOA which sidelined Saudi Arabia, then with Trump championing MBS then with Biden criminalizing him. With China and Russia around they had found an alternative and a voice. They won't take any subtle hit from the US anymore. And bro from the past being a sole hegemon, the US can settled conflicting interest of her vassal states without compromising its interest by either thru force or economic pressure. But constant and illegal usage may have finally caught on, making her an unreliable partner.

 

[Petrolicious88]

It all make sense now, at least to me. This coronavirus is a bioweapon by US.
These kind of people who organized this, should be torn apart in 5 pieces.


(1) For three years, China had been locked in growing conflict with America over trade and geopolitics, and for three years in a row, China had been hit very hard by mysterious viruses. An Avian Flu virus severely damaged its poultry industry in 2018 and the following year a Swine Flu virus destroyed over 40% of its pig herds, China’s primary meat source. The third year, Covid-19 appeared. Certainly a suspicious pattern if the last were just a random lab-leak.

(2) The Covid-19 outbreak appeared at absolutely the worst time and place for China, the major transit hub of Wuhan, timed almost perfectly to reach high local levels of infection just as the travelers for the Lunar New Year holiday spread the disease to all other parts of the country, thereby producing an unstoppable epidemic. The timing of an accidental lab-leak would obviously be random.

(3) 300 American military servicemen had just visited Wuhan as part of the World Military Games, providing a perfect opportunity for releasing a viral bioweapon. Consider what Americans would think if 300 Chinese military officers had visited Chicago, and immediately afterwards a mysterious, deadly viral disease suddenly broke out in that city. It would be a strange coincidence if that the American military visit and an entirely unrelated accidental lab-leak had occurred at exactly the same time.

(4) The characteristics of Covid-19, including high communicability and low lethality, are absolutely ideal in an anti-economy bioweapon. It seems odd that a random lab-leak would release a virus so perfectly designed to severely damage the Chinese economy.

(5) From almost the very moment that the outbreak began, anti-China bloggers in America and the US-funded Radio Free Asia network had launched a powerful international propaganda offensive against China, claiming that the outbreak in Wuhan was due to the leak of an illegal bioweapon from the Wuhan lab. This may have merely been an exceptionally prompt but opportunistic response of our propaganda organs, but they seemed remarkably quick to take full advantage of an entirely unexpected and mysterious development, which they immediately identified as being due to a lab-leak.

(6) By “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency had already begun preparing a secret report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan although according to the standard timeline at that point probably only a couple of dozen people had started experiencing any symptoms of illness in a city of 11 million. How did they discover what was happening in Wuhan so much sooner than the Chinese government or anyone else?

(7) Almost immediately afterwards, the ruling political elites in Iran became severely infected, with many of them dying. Why did the accidental Wuhan lab-leak jump to the Iran’s political elites so quickly, before it had reached almost anywhere else in the world.

Russian intelligence is reporting that US has developed taylored bioweapon for specific countries.

 

[voyager1]

@voyager1 bro who won't, after being played and tossed around, first with Obama with JCPOA which sidelined Saudi Arabia, then with Trump championing MBS then with Biden criminalizing him. With China and Russia around they had found an alternative and a voice. They won't take any subtle hit from the US anymore. And bro from the past being a sole hegemon, the US can settled conflicting interest of her vassal states without compromising its interest by either thru force or economic pressure. But constant and illegal usage may have finally caught on, making her an unreliable partner.

Absolutely true. The US has played all the sides and stabbed them in the back so many times that the Arab states have now (mostly) smartened up and will use China infuence to them as leverage when they negotiate with the West

 

[windsclouds2030]

That was a deal signed with the blood of the former Chinese ambassador to Israel, and would have been seen as a rubicon moment by both Washington and Beijing, from which there was no easy way back for Israel. Which would have been the only promise concrete enough to permanently commit a country in the western political world, where governments can change overnight and ditch the sworn commitments of previous governments at will.

I once read that there's some particularity with the new ambassador, that's why he's regarded as "a threat" and thus had to be silenced for good! But I can't recall exactly what's that.

Can you or any one enlightens what's special with Du Wei that he had to be eliminated? His prior assignment in Ukraine, language capability (fluent in Hebrew !?), or else???

Du Wei (02 October 1962 – 17 May 2020) was a Chinese diplomat who served as Ambassador to Ukraine from 2016 until 2019 and Ambassador to Israel from February 2020 until May 2020. He assumed his Israeli post in February 2020, with an initial two-week quarantine due to the coronavirus pandemic. He submitted his credentials to Israeli President Reuven Rivlin virtually due to the pandemic. Du was found dead in his Herzliya apartment on 17 May 2020. His death came in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic, and a few days after US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's visit to Israel, during which he assailed China and tried to pressure Israel to curb Chinese investments. These circumstances have led to various conspiracy theories about the cause of his death. (Wiki excerpt)

Btw this kind of sudden heart attack did happen to some Russian envoys incl the famous Russia's ambassador to the United Nations, Vitaly Churkin (64), died on February 20, 2017 in New York.

 

[windsclouds2030]

Russian intelligence is reporting that US has developed tailored bioweapon for specific countries.

If anyone has better sources on this subject, please share...

Just managed to quickly find some reading on this Russian intel... but I wish that I have better sources.


Calls mount for probe into US bio-labs after Russian claim (APRIL 2021)

Responding to a question about the origin of COVID-19, Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev said recently that US-controlled biological laboratories appear mainly near Russian and Chinese borders. And there is good reason to believe the US is developing biological weapons in those labs, and that outbreaks of non-typical diseases have been reported around them.

The US has set up bio-labs in 25 countries and regions across the Middle East, Africa, Southeast Asia and former Soviet Union, with 16 in Ukraine alone. Some of the places where the labs are based have seen large-scale outbreaks of measles and other dangerous infectious diseases, the ministry said, citing media reports.

The Fort Detrick laboratory that handles high-level disease-causing materials, such as Ebola, in Fredrick, Maryland, was shut after the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a cease and desist order against the organization in July 2019, media reported.

USA Today reported that since 2003, hundreds of incidents involving accidental contact with deadly pathogens have occurred in US bio-labs at home and abroad.

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COVID-19 origins-tracing hindered by politics not from China, but US: Chinese FM (APRIL 2021)

Zhao said he still remembers clearly that the last so-called open letter by scientists was published on March 4, and done by virtually the same group of people. It was also drafted by Jamie Metzl, senior fellow at the ATLANTIC COUNCIL think tank and previously serving on the US National Security Council and State Department, prior to the WHO releasing its virus origins-tracing report, while this one was released after the WHO issued its report.

Some netizens discussed that Metzl's role already demonstrated the letter is driven by geopolitics, not science. The other organizer is the data scientist in New Zealand, Gilles Demaneuf, while some of the other signatories do not have a medical background in data science, public affairs and security.

As for lab leaks, Zhao said field visits to China have shown that the virus being leaked from Chinese labs is extremely unlikely, but it is another story if clues and evidence were found in the rest of the world.

Zhao expressed hopes that countries including the US can adopt a scientific and cooperative altitude to working with the WHO on virus origins-tracing and invite WHO experts to conduct scientific research in their countries.

Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev said in an interview with the Kommersant newspaper, "US-controlled biological laboratories appear here and there in the world on a permanent basis. Strangely enough, they appear mainly near Russian and Chinese borders." He said Russia has every reason to believe the US is developing biological weapons in labs.

Zhao asked, "Why does the US build so many laboratories all over the world? What activities does the US military carry out in these laboratories and Fort Detrick base? Why does the US exclusively oppose the establishment of a verification mechanism under the Biological Weapons Convention? Are there any reasons why the US does not dare to allow these laboratories and bases to undergo international inspections?"

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