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MH370 Demise Possibly Caused by US Air Force Seeking to Stop Tech Shipment to China, Author Claims

Sputnik News - 28 Mar 2021


The plane’s disappearance from radar screens could have been caused by US early warning aircraft, De Changy reportedly postulates.

The mysterious disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 seven years ago has got yet another potential explanation, as investigative journalist Florence de Changy suggests that a certain branch of the US Armed Forces may have had a hand in that tragedy.

In her book, titled "The Disappearing Act: The Impossible Case of MH370", De Changy argues that the airliner was actually carrying a shipment of "electronic equipment" to China, and that US Air Force sought to intercept this cargo, according to the Sun.

The book reportedly claims that the airliner vanished from radar screens due to tracking technology being intercepted during the course of that operation, with two US Airborne Early Warning planes moving to block the target plane’s magnetic field.

After an attempt to reroute the airliner’s course failed, the airliner was shot down, and "the matter has been feverishly covered up ever since," as the newspaper puts it.

"The shooting down could have been a blunder, but it could have also been a last resort to stop the plane and its special cargo from falling into Chinese hands," De Changy reportedly states.

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 disappeared from radar with 239 passengers and crew on board on 8 March 2014, during a handover from Malaysian to Vietnamese air traffic controllers.

Despite the abundance of theories about what happened to the airliner, its ultimate fate currently remains unknown.

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THE US Air Force shot down the missing Malaysian MH370 flight in a disastrous bid to seize electronic equipment bound for Beijing, according to an explosive new book.

The MH370 flight disappeared in March 2014 and is regarded as one of the greatest aviation mystery's in history.

Yet de Changy only refers to it as such ironically - as she believes the official version of events is shrouded in deceit.

She continued, "'The shooting down could have been a blunder, but it could have also been a last resort to stop the plane and its special cargo from falling into Chinese hands."

"'It was not possible for a Boeing 777 to have simply disappeared," de Changy writes.

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I actually suggested something somewhat similar a long time ago, only my theory didn’t involve AWACS or shoot downs.

As a general rule, the more people involved, and more elaborate a conspiracy, the least likely it is to succeed and stay a secret.

It has been consistently rumoured that someone onboard was carrying some very sensitive technology destined for China.

That’s not the sort of thing you put in your check in luggage, and it would have been almost certain that Chinese agents would have been accompanying it as close protection.

How do you steal such a package without bloodshed or causing a major international incident? The easiest way to do it would be to introduce sleeping gas in the airlines energy air supply. If the US was desperately enough to risk intercepting a civilian airliner over international airspace, they would have just deployed agents to grab the package before it even got to the airport, with a massive shootout if needs be, as that would be less of deal that such an intercept/shoot down.

For my idea, all you would need are the pilots, and someone with ground crew access.

Pilots could be CIA assets with shallow covers, and can be switched in at the last minute without anyone really raising any eyebrows since such things happen all the time in civil aviation. Likewise it would be child’s play for the likes of the CIA to issue fake passes and credentials to allow one of their people to gain access to the plane as ground maintenance personnel. All very easily arranged.

The pilots would put on some aerobatics and drop emergency oxygen masks and order everyone to wear them, which everyone would automatically comply. Sleeping gas goes to work and knocks everyone, including the canine crew out, co-pilot pops out and casually lifts package and locks it away safely in the cockpit. Pilot shuts off sleeping gas, everyone wakes up, and mass unconsciousness will be chalked off to cabin pressure loss. Story makes the news as a minor side note and pilots gets commendations for ‘saving’ the plane and passengers, but decide to retire early due to the stress of the incident.

Problem was someone messed up the gas mix and no one woke up.

Pilots freaked out after realising they were flying a plane full of corpses towards Chinese airspace, with irrefutable evidence they cannot get rid of onboard that directly implicates the US government in a mass murder. They called their bosses and were ordered to drop blow radar and head to an US airbase, probably on Diego Garcia.

AWACS may have been subsequently scrambled/diverted to provide tracking and navigational support to ensure no-one picked up the plane thereafter. Maybe some jamming was also selectively used where the plane could not entirely avoid civilian radar grids.

Incidentally, this disappearance is rumoured to be one of the main reasons for China’s decision to build its SCS islands, as those islands now provide radar coverage over a previous blank spot, so things like this will never happen again.
 

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Imagine needing to use the "China threat" in order to pass a bill to improve the lives of the people.

The US is truly in decline

I thought that the Biden admin would confront China in a more intelligent way back before his inauguration. Now it appears that not only is he not rolling back any of the dumb Trump policies, but he is doubling down on them, including tariffs on allies.
 

windsclouds2030

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After reading this, I am still completely unsure how you think China can bring about a peace treaty between North and South Korea. Kim has expressed no interest and American military operations in the area are not dictated by South Korea nor have they expressed an interest to trade their American partnership for a peace treaty. The pieces don't fit together.

No, I wouldn't bear it for that reason. Democracies are untrustworthy because they can flip flop with each presidency but the price you pay has been paid and is gone forever. There is no indication that some peace treaty would solidify any Korean relationship with China in the current political situation.

To gain South Korean favor, China can only show them again and again that being on the US side is being on the losing side in Asia. Paying them or doing things for them is simply a fool's errand. They are a sly vixen and you can buy her things; you can fix her car and she might pay you a kiss but once you're done, she's out on the market again. To win her, you have only one option and that is to be the biggest gangster in town.
Reading your analysis/comment KOR, you have the potential to become a politician or even a strategist -- very well thought.

One thing I don't get it why folks think N & S must join, historically the N & S was not a single entity, there was no such political entity ruled the whole Korean Peninsula , or why is it possible with the US outpost there, or why China as the major power in that geography will support such thing. N & S as separate entity, living in coexistence peacefully and being prosperous with the US outpost there be relinquished is the best arrangement for the peninsula. Everything points back to the empire... the source of chaos and negativity in the current mundane world... there won't be true peace as long as the empire still has its menacing claws!!
 

windsclouds2030

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There is no reason and precedent in history that "race" plays any real role in real power/interest struggle. Race is a constructed concept by racist for their material interest.

So, Asia as a whole is a non existent concept to begin with. For example, the most racist regime Nazi Germany persecuted/killed millions of European Jews, many of them share the blood with "pure" Germans up to 90% (like only 1/8th Jewish ancestry) and they are not even foreigners on occupied land. Yet the Nazis tried to have a warm relationship with Arabs against the British, while the Arabs share the same ancestor with Jews. Ironic, isn't?

So for a racist, it will pick up you regardless your true "race", in the same way it will not defend you for the same "race" it shares with you either. "race" is only an excuse for violence, it is nothing if it does not serve such purpose.
@taxiya, on Nazi-Jews-Holocaust, I wonder if you ever heard about the works and books by the American researcher: David Irving on this matter? Or,
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on this matter? Both have different views from the established ones.
 

windsclouds2030

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I actually suggested something somewhat similar a long time ago, only my theory didn’t involve AWACS or shoot downs.

As a general rule, the more people involved, and more elaborate a conspiracy, the least likely it is to succeed and stay a secret.

It has been consistently rumoured that someone onboard was carrying some very sensitive technology destined for China.

That’s not the sort of thing you put in your check in luggage, and it would have been almost certain that Chinese agents would have been accompanying it as close protection.

How do you steal such a package without bloodshed or causing a major international incident? The easiest way to do it would be to introduce sleeping gas in the airlines energy air supply. If the US was desperately enough to risk intercepting a civilian airliner over international airspace, they would have just deployed agents to grab the package before it even got to the airport, with a massive shootout if needs be, as that would be less of deal that such an intercept/shoot down.

For my idea, all you would need are the pilots, and someone with ground crew access.

Pilots could be CIA assets with shallow covers, and can be switched in at the last minute without anyone really raising any eyebrows since such things happen all the time in civil aviation. Likewise it would be child’s play for the likes of the CIA to issue fake passes and credentials to allow one of their people to gain access to the plane as ground maintenance personnel. All very easily arranged.

The pilots would put on some aerobatics and drop emergency oxygen masks and order everyone to wear them, which everyone would automatically comply. Sleeping gas goes to work and knocks everyone, including the canine crew out, co-pilot pops out and casually lifts package and locks it away safely in the cockpit. Pilot shuts off sleeping gas, everyone wakes up, and mass unconsciousness will be chalked off to cabin pressure loss. Story makes the news as a minor side note and pilots gets commendations for ‘saving’ the plane and passengers, but decide to retire early due to the stress of the incident.

Problem was someone messed up the gas mix and no one woke up.

Pilots freaked out after realising they were flying a plane full of corpses towards Chinese airspace, with irrefutable evidence they cannot get rid of onboard that directly implicates the US government in a mass murder. They called their bosses and were ordered to drop blow radar and head to an US airbase, probably on Diego Garcia.

AWACS may have been subsequently scrambled/diverted to provide tracking and navigational support to ensure no-one picked up the plane thereafter. Maybe some jamming was also selectively used where the plane could not entirely avoid civilian radar grids.

Incidentally, this disappearance is rumoured to be one of the main reasons for China’s decision to build its SCS islands, as those islands now provide radar coverage over a previous blank spot, so things like this will never happen again.
Then it leaves me with one question, if there's some load as "such precious" like that, why didn't they use China's own airlines? I believe there are direct flight from KL to mainland China by mainland airlines. And when there is some sensitivity, the choice of airlines is quite important, for not everyone does really equal!

But ofc no one could predict that "they" might go this far or acted with such gross cruelty... or they thought of not being so obvious thus not blending with Chinese airlines, or racing with time and that fateful flight was the earliest one they got etc... seeing is believing, RIP to all the victims, and to those in knowing, they should have learned by then that there's no bottom on how far "they" may go in execution. Officially the case will go down in history as permanent mystery. Just believe as one wishes.

Well, great that China already have radar coverage for that far away waters. Back then I was surprised that the SCS area was blank, no radar coverage from the Chinese side.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Reading your analysis/comment KOR, you have the potential to become a politician or even a strategist -- very well thought.

One thing I don't get it why folks think N & S must join, historically the N & S was not a single entity, there was no such political entity ruled the whole Korean Peninsula , or why is it possible with the US outpost there, or why China as the major power in that geography will support such thing. N & S as separate entity, living in coexistence peacefully and being prosperous with the US outpost there be relinquished is the best arrangement for the peninsula. Everything points back to the empire... the source of chaos and negativity in the current mundane world... there won't be true peace as long as the empire still has its menacing claws!!
That is not correct Silla and Joseon rule over united Korea But in some way you not far off because thru most of the history the country is divided. They even have their own version of 3 Kingdom Goguryo, Paekche and Silla all of them fight with each other for dominance

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Thursday that any attempts to start a new military conflict in Ukraine’s war-torn east could end up destroying Ukraine, the TASS news agency reported.
Here it is folks. Fireworks are ready to go. I advice anyone from Ukraine to start hoarding supplies.

I think Russia has gotten the green light that China will back them (at the recent FM meeting), so now Russia is ready to procceed with their plans if Ukraine starts anything
 

taxiya

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@taxiya, on Nazi-Jews-Holocaust, I wonder if you ever heard about the works and books by the American researcher: David Irving on this matter? Or,
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on this matter? Both have different views from the established ones.
No, I have never read anything from these two people. I just skimped the work of Henry Makow and wikipedia about David Irving after you mentioned them. In short, they do have some merits in their works, but I do have some objections:
  1. I believe in "class struggle" of Karl Max. I don't accept any attribution of "doing bad" such as imperialism to any people, but only social class. That is to say that it is the fault of financial capitalists which may have lots of Jewish people in certain country and certain time. Their ethnic background plays no role doing bad. The word Jew should not have been in the title with or without quotation marks.
  2. The established history view after WWII are made by the winners. The view includes some obvious whitewashing or omission of atrocities against German and Japanese civilians by US, UK and USSR. However, trying to whitewash Hitler is not acceptable. One of David's argument is the lack of evidence of order from Hitler to exterminate the Jews. David missed the point or disagree with the point that there were millions Jewish civilians killed at the hand of Nazi troops, Hitler as the highest leader together with the whole leadership are fully responsible for that, regardless written order or not. Technicality in legal code of the time does not get them away from the guilt. In this regard, winner's rule is the rule.

I skipped reading the rest about their work because I believe with these two fundamental differences the rest of what they say does not matter much to me, what can be agreed I probably already know through my own study.
 
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