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[Dolcevita]

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Taiwan expert admits he's a 'complete newbie' to Taiwan. Well maybe he can spot Taiwan on a map, that's why he's an expert.

Duh!!!!
Bloomberg Readers must really be dumb. Since when was Taiwan or any country or society not a civilization.

Oh Yeah. Perhaps Author and his Bloomberg readers do not recognize Pre-Columbus America and Aboriginal Australia as civilization.
It would have been more appropriate to educate and inform them that it is.

 

[Mr T]

It looks like China may be a loser in this military coup.
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, the myanmar military has more reservations about China's influence and projects then the political leaders.

Lets see if there are "mah democracy" fingerprints in this coup. No noise from USA yet.

The USA has condemned the coup and demanded politicians be released. You might have been a little too hot off the button there.

Also, what's China's position? This is probably a good opportunity for Beijing. It's unlikely the generals would have done this if they'd thought the net result would be diplomatic and economic isolation. They're probably counting on the Chinese government turning a blind eye after a couple of months to let things get back to normal on the trade front.

If China makes it clear that they won't work with another junta and might even sanction members of the army, it would bolster China's image as the key power in the region if they're forced to back down, as well as further boost relations with the civilian government. Alternatively Xi could reach out to Biden and pledge to work together, which could get concessions from Washington.

As for why the coup happened, I haven't seen any evidence that this was sponsored by another country. The military were always unhappy about losing the last election because they'd stacked the system so much in their favour they couldn't believe it was possible for Aung San Suu Kyi to win. With her winning another election my guess is that they were concerned she'd start pushing for a new constitution to have proper civilian control of the country. The generals are also incredibly corrupt and are equally worried about being investigated after they retire and being thrown under a bus by their officer juniors. Winning the election would have protected the generals from further action, either by passing new legislation giving them immunity or just ordering prosecutors not to investigate.

 

[Nobonita Barua]

Alternatively Xi could reach out to Biden and pledge to work together, which could get concessions from Washington.

Do you get started with your broken radio everywhere?

 

[Temstar]

The USA has condemned the coup and demanded politicians be released. You might have been a little too hot off the button there.

Also, what's China's position? This is probably a good opportunity for Beijing. It's unlikely the generals would have done this if they'd thought the net result would be diplomatic and economic isolation. They're probably counting on the Chinese government turning a blind eye after a couple of months to let things get back to normal on the trade front.

If China makes it clear that they won't work with another junta and might even sanction members of the army, it would bolster China's image as the key power in the region if they're forced to back down, as well as further boost relations with the civilian government. Alternatively Xi could reach out to Biden and pledge to work together, which could get concessions from Washington.

As for why the coup happened, I haven't seen any evidence that this was sponsored by another country. The military were always unhappy about losing the last election because they'd stacked the system so much in their favour they couldn't believe it was possible for Aung San Suu Kyi to win. With her winning another election my guess is that they were concerned she'd start pushing for a new constitution to have proper civilian control of the country. The generals are also incredibly corrupt and are equally worried about being investigated after they retire and being thrown under a bus by their officer juniors. Winning the election would have protected the generals from further action, either by passing new legislation giving them immunity or just ordering prosecutors not to investigate.

How about no one stick their dick where it doesn't belong and let Burmese decide their own fate? You know don't interfere with another country's internal politics.

 

[Mr T]

How about no one stick their dick where it doesn't belong and let Burmese decide their own fate? You know don't interfere with another country's internal politics.

Number 1, how are Myanmar people able to decide their own fate if the military are pressing guns into their faces? When was the last time you stood up to someone with a gun aimed at you (and ready to use it) with just your fists?

Number 2, why is it controversial to oppose coups? If the situation in Myanmar deterioriated such that there was a civil war, that would be bad for not just for the people living there but also ASEAN and China. China sitting on the fence wouldn't do anything to avoid that.

 

[Nobonita Barua]

Number 1, how are Myanmar people able to decide their own fate if the military are pressing guns into their faces? When was the last time you stood up to someone with a gun aimed at you (and ready to use it) with just your fists?

Then they will die. That's the price of being able to decide their own.

When your former masters britsey empire came here, how do you think we fought?

 

[Nobonita Barua]

Number 2, why is it controversial to oppose coups? If the situation in Myanmar deterioriated such that there was a civil war, that would be bad for not just for the people living there but also ASEAN and China. China sitting on the fence wouldn't do anything to avoid that.

Everything, as long as it is internal matter.

 

[Mt1701d]

Also, what's China's position? This is probably a good opportunity for Beijing. It's unlikely the generals would have done this if they'd thought the net result would be diplomatic and economic isolation. They're probably counting on the Chinese government turning a blind eye after a couple of months to let things get back to normal on the trade front.

If China makes it clear that they won't work with another junta and might even sanction members of the army, it would bolster China's image as the key power in the region if they're forced to back down, as well as further boost relations with the civilian government. Alternatively Xi could reach out to Biden and pledge to work together, which could get concessions from Washington.

China’s position would likely be what it has been since the very beginning... which is non-interference so long as the prior agreed terms of engagement are adhered to... It would be an opportunity for Beijing indeed for showing that their stated principal of non-interference is exactly what it is... problems within is the responsibility of the people within, as long as Beijing’s interests are not touched... this is actually a far better message that any government can have the same interaction with Beijing so long as they understand and respect Beijing’s interests... China becomes a known quantity when dealing with China on the international sphere, as opposed to the western model using the banner of human rights, where you don’t really know what will cause or when they will turn on you due to mistakes in the domestic policy...

Your suggestion of an opportunity to show how Beijing can be a key power is entirely based on a western prospective and approach, where they are superior in their position and have the right to meddle in the affairs of another sovereign entity... the idea that sanctions have any real term effect, apart from causing a greater humanitarian crisis, is laughable and have pretty much always cause the people of the country in question far more harm than any possible good... this applies even further when considering the aftermath of any possible revolution as a response to the humanitarian crisis the sanctions caused in the first place, where the resulting government sponsored by the western powers is just as corrupt if not worst but since it has ties to the west, it is completely overlooked and justified...

 

[Mr T]

China’s position would likely be what it has been since the very beginning... which is non-interference ....as long as Beijing’s interests are not touched

That's not really non-interference, that's just protecting your interests. Non-interference means not taking action even when your interests could be hurt.

the idea that sanctions have any real term effect, apart from causing a greater humanitarian crisis, is laughable and have pretty much always cause the people of the country in question far more harm than any possible good..

China has agreed sanctions on countries in the past as well on officials. Was it wrong to do so?

this applies even further when considering the aftermath of any possible revolution as a response to the humanitarian crisis the sanctions caused in the first place

In this case there wouldn't be a revolution but restoration of civilian control.

I mean are you completely indifferent as to whether a country is run by a civilian or military government - would you be in favour of the PLA taking over China from the CCP?

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

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Once again China being the mature adult in the room.