Chinese Economics Thread

[Nobonita Barua]

@mace

May I add, their system is not equip to counter/challenge China, All this human rights crap is an admission that China on this issue is doing something right, whatever smear propaganda you accuse China of , lifting 800 million people out of poverty and challenging the US is more than enough proof. So MACE a question , can you see any structural changes happening in the US under Biden? complacency is a curse and nobody seems to want to shake the boat (except for Trump but for his selfish reason). I think both side of the aisle feared organized labor more (leftist progressive policy of Bernie Sanders)and China is being used as a bogeyman.

All this human rights have to be crap. Do you really think the people, who they claim having a good life, really gives a crap about what's going on with people half way around the world? It's always about preserving supremacy by creating chaos in other countries. The entire system of US & West is basically illusion of values that never existed except their mind. "values & freedom" never paid their bills of "good lives". It was something else.

US can't have any structural change until they break down the illusionary present one.

 

[AssassinsMace]

@mace

May I add, their system is not equip to counter/challenge China, All this human rights crap is an admission that China on this issue is doing something right, whatever smear propaganda you accuse China of , lifting 800 million people out of poverty and challenging the US is more than enough proof. So MACE a question , can you see any structural changes happening in the US under Biden? complacency is a curse and nobody seems to want to shake the boat (except for Trump but for his selfish reason). I think both side of the aisle feared organized labor more (leftist progressive policy of Bernie Sanders)and China is being used as a bogeyman.

That would be brave of Biden to change a US policy that's not working but as usual the US continue to do the same thing repeatedly expecting a different result every time. To Americans negotiation is weakness so anything less than unconditional surrender will be seen as failure. The US will never recognize China doing anything good on its own because they need to take credit. They need to proclaim it was their God so they can teach how much they owe their God.

 

[ansy1968]

That would be brave of Biden to change a US policy that's not working but as usual the US continue to do the same thing repeatedly expecting a different result every time. To Americans negotiation is weakness so anything less than unconditional surrender will be seen as failure. The US will never recognize China doing anything good on its own because they need to take credit. They need to proclaim it was their God so they can teach how much they owe their God.

@mace,

To Americans negotiation is weakness so anything less than unconditional surrender will be seen as failure. To these its frightening but I agree with your view 100%, they had taken that IMPERIUM attitude from the Roman. I think China should take that view as a guide rather than follow the Chinese way of negotiating of giving face. I don't want to experience a WW3 in my lifetime, but with the pandemic and serious problem both social and economic in the US, we may have been given a reprieved. 2025 will be crucial as China approach the US in parity, either the new incoming administration (Biden will be dead by then or will not seek reelection) accept China as co-equal or a more harder approach will be implemented. We may have to rely on you MACE and your fellow enlighten American to be our salvation.

 

[escobar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1347745529447342086

 

[Deleted member 15887]

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I thought what few things Republicans and Democrats can agree on was China... Don't think that the siege on Washington and the US's foreign policy are separate issues. They both have the US politicians manipulating and lying which is why this is happening. US politicians hate China not because of human rights abuses. It's because the existence of China has created doubt in American supremacy to which these politicians need to use to get voted into office. If China is threatening US dominance in say technology, it means US politicians failed the American people. They didn't emphasize money on education to stave off Chinese challengers. That's why they also accuse China of stealing. It was Chinese treachery and not because these politicians were lazy on seeing the US's educational needs. It's not their fault.

Nah, cuz China has huge potential to be political football for Democrats and Republicans to tossle around to boost either's electoral prospects. So Biden takes one specific China approach, Republicans will say that's "being soft on China", than it goes back and forth without much done.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

@mace

May I add, their system is not equip to counter/challenge China, All this human rights crap is an admission that China on this issue is doing something right, whatever smear propaganda you accuse China of , lifting 800 million people out of poverty and challenging the US is more than enough proof. So MACE a question , can you see any structural changes happening in the US under Biden? complacency is a curse and nobody seems to want to shake the boat (except for Trump but for his selfish reason). I think both side of the aisle feared organized labor more (leftist progressive policy of Bernie Sanders)and China is being used as a bogeyman.

I don't think that is the problem. It is the democrazy systemic weakness is you have to be elected and in order to do that you need ton of money and guess who has the money the capitalist and they don't give money for nothing. So all those politician are catering to the 1%(military industrial complex, lobby) while at the same time they dole out crumb(tax reduction) to the working class 99% and deflect their grievances and frustration to the black, china, iran you named it Reinforced their prejudice with allegiance to Christianity, anti homo etc, anti abortion

They didn't a thing to improve the life of the working class like education, retraining, tax subsidy to employ people, improving R&D and competitiveness of industry , give free college education, eliminating loop hole for company to invest overseas, improve heath care etc Nothing NADA

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

China will vie to become world financial centre, says Ray Dalio​

Bridgewater founder calls 2020 a ‘defining year’ for country’s financial markets

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China will emerge as a rival to New York and London as the world’s financial centre, according to Bridgewater founder Ray Dalio, who is betting heavily on what would be an epochal shift in the global economy.

2020 was a “defining year” for Chinese financial markets, the co-chief investment officer of the world’s biggest hedge fund told the Financial Times last month, with the coronavirus crisis starkly highlighting the country’s economic outperformance — and spurring Rmb1tn of investment inflows.

Although China’s financial system remains less developed than its western peers, it will be only a matter of time before it is a contender for Wall Street and the City of London’s supremacy, Mr Dalio said.

 

[antiterror13]

Nah, cuz China has huge potential to be political football for Democrats and Republicans to tossle around to boost either's electoral prospects. So Biden takes one specific China approach, Republicans will say that's "being soft on China", than it goes back and forth without much done.

but now the Democrat control the govt, congress and senate, all can be done smoothly by Biden. The Democrat now has extremely high power we haven't seen for a very long time, since 1995 when Clinton was the president

 

[In4ser]

All this human rights have to be crap. Do you really think the people, who they claim having a good life, really gives a crap about what's going on with people half way around the world? It's always about preserving supremacy by creating chaos in other countries. The entire system of US & West is basically illusion of values that never existed except their mind. "values & freedom" never paid their bills of "good lives". It was something else.

US can't have any structural change until they break down the illusionary present one.

Nah, Americans love the Chinese, especially Republicans, why else they're giving them millions of dollars for human rights? It's obvious that they believe in the superiority of the average Chinese person's life which is why they're sending all their resources to them instead of the average black, brown, and white trash American. Americans don't need to worry about its broken health system, legal system, tax system, education system or transportation, it should just continue to give money into the Chinese economy indirectly.

 

[AssassinsMace]

If the EU goes through with this investment deal with China, this guy says the US should align with Russia. LOL!

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