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China’s top businessman Zhong Shanshan on Thursday rose to become Asia’s richest man with a worth of nearly $77.8 billion.
According to Bloomberg assessment, Zhong, 66, a bottled water and vaccine tycoon, is the 11th richest person on the planet.
“It’s one of the fastest accumulations of wealth in history,” said the report as Zhong’s businesses surged from $70.9 billion to $77.8 billion this year.
He overtook India’s Mukesh Ambani whose worth surged to $76.9 billion.
Little know in outer world, Zhong, whose career spans journalism, mushroom farming and healthcare, in September rose to become China’s richest businessman after overtaking Chinese philanthropist and businessman Jack Ma by over $2billion.
The rare feat for a Chinese businessman comes amid a challenging year which saw global businesses badly hit due to the COVID-19 pandemic which has affected over 80 million people across the world and killed over 1.8 million people. It was first reported in China’s central Wuhan city in December 2019.
Headquartered in Hangzhou in China’s Zhejiang province, Zhong’s bottled water company Nongfu Spring Co is Hong Kong's most popular among retail investors. Zhong is popular as “lone wolf” in the business world.
A school dropout, Zhong worked as a construction worker, a newspaper reporter and a beverage sales agent before starting his own business.
Among his businesses is Beijing Wantai Biological Pharmacy. It started trading at the Shanghai Stock Exchange in April.
Before Ambani, Jack Ma was Asia’s richest man whose net worth has come down to $51.2 billion now.
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Seems like Zhong Shanshan has done it again. A few days ago he was at 77 billion dollars. Now he's at 92 billion dollars thanks to adding 5 billion dollars in one day. He's getting closer to 100 billion dollars, the first Chinese to join the centibillion club.

Currently no 6 in the world. At his current rate he'll have 100 billion by the end of Friday.
 

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Yep, it's pretty much for everyone in the lower 60% of population. Need that advanced education to get ahead. Only with university degree and higher and specialized in a technical field can you make a decent living.

There are maybe 5 people in Canada that can do my job, so it's pretty easy to negotiate a good salary. But if the position is replaceable, it's working 3 jobs to make ends meet.

The "gig" eCONomy is basically slavery... working so many jobs also has the effect of demand destruction since you don't have time to fully enjoy life anymore... and time is the one thing you cannot ever get back

Also the same reason the US has largest prison system that is privateized... and laws on the books to keep people locked up and going back, in the CONstitution slavery was abolished but not if you got CONvicted of a crime, and the system is rigged so that 90% of all indictments end up in a guilty plea bargain or false CONfessions
 

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Well, I wouldn't marry a woman just cus she can save money, though.

Her strengths are, she's really smart, graduated RenDa top of her class, currently working on her PhD in econ. Has very high EQ because she has positively maintained a lot of relationships in China's complex work environment while also learning to keep her distance without offending anyone. She's very athletic, 165cm, thin looking, but athlete-level muscle tone since she was a track star in the sprint in college and high school. Took her to the gym at 112 pounds bodyweight to test her strength and she did an ass-to-grass Olympic weightlifting squat of 115 pounds, then a bench press of 65 pounds, and then a clean grip deadlift of 135 pounds on her first day! She learns very fast; the form for the clean pull and Olympic squat are things that many guys never get down but she got on her first day.

Her weaknesses are that she's egotistic and can't stand to fail at anything (she will injure herself finishing a routine at the gym because she doesn't want to say she failed and will be visibly upset at herself if her cooking is a bit off on occasion) and that she still likes some luxuries like $5,000 Italian/French bags and iphones. She's already promised to ditch Apple once we get to China so we're shopping for her last one, an iphone 11 pro used, on Craigslist, but the bags thing we'll need to work that out. I tell her that items made by Chinese hands will always be worth more to me than those made by foreign hands because the ultimate luxury is no material thing but the sense of pride in your heart. We're still working on that last one...
If you're moving to China you should consider Changsha. I've heard fantastic things about Changsha - the government has a very aggressive 不炒房 房子是用来住的不是用来炒的 policy. Anyway I heard you like ogling Korean girls hahahaha, Changsha girls are beautiful. I'm definitely considering going there. Gonna get slaughtered alive by my girlfriend I better run

@Gatekeeper did you know before 9/11 you could enter the cockpit for sightseeing? My father brought me there and it was beautiful. I wanted to hijack the plane right there and crash it
 

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My salary pretty much tripled since I graduated in 2007, but the cost of things also doubled.

I keep a very detailed budget and expense list. It used to be $400 for groceries a month which is now $900. I haven't really changed what I buy.

I agree with the video cards. But inflation is calculated with a basket of goods weighted by "importance", means it's all BS. What I value (video card) is not what my wife values (milk). You will notice those price changes if you buy things once every several years with its $1000 jump. Milk prices been holding steady for almost a decade now, but meat and vegetables are going up.

But governments will say milk is a staple, so must stay stable, and is weighted more, thus low inflation. Clothing is another big item that has been stable in price, which shows a low inflationary value. However, if you buy good quality clothing for work (pre-2020) the prices have been going up very quickly.
In a lot of instances, the dress code for work is a lot more relaxed now. Suits and ties are out with the emphasis on tidy. Our family doctor who is very good and comes from a long family lineage of good doctors comes to work like he was going down to the beach for a barbie.
 

B.I.B.

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Yep, it's pretty much for everyone in the lower 60% of population. Need that advanced education to get ahead. Only with university degree and higher and specialized in a technical field can you make a decent living.

There are maybe 5 people in Canada that can do my job, so it's pretty easy to negotiate a good salary. But if the position is replaceable, it's working 3 jobs to make ends meet.
Previous studies in NZ showed that a university graduate was more than likely to be more than a million dollars better off at the official retirement age than someone that did not attend uni, but this is becoming less certain with more and more unemployed or under utilised graduates.
One of Australasias richest man was a tow truck driver and later studied for a business degree

Nz'der Peter Beck the founder/ CEO of Rocket Lab only went to high school but must be a pretty persuasive talker to get U.S. firm Khosla to back him
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and sometimes there is luck

An acquaintance of mine who became stuck in NZ due to border closures over covid is on a couple hundred thousand a year to weld railway tracks together. He was offered the job without the need to produce a CV or go to an interview as he was the only person in NZ who knew how to weld railway tracks in a certain manner.

That's flabbergasting because we have tens of thousands of migrants from China and we can't even find one who knows anything about welding railway tracks.
 
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Take a medium-sized economy like Japan for example.

Over the past 30-40 years, Japan's GDP has been stable at 500-550 Trillion Yen and their living standards have remained the same.

But fluctuations in the exchange rate meant the Japanese economy was as small as $4 Trillion or as large as $6 Trillion USD.
That is a 50% difference in the exchange rate.

And China is far larger and more self-sufficient than Japan is.

But yes, PPP and nominal both have their uses.

What is your opinion on which is better to use?

I assume the best way to do it would be to take everything being traded and use market exchange rates/nominal, with all goods and services made in China to be broken down into each part, supply, etc. and those produced domestically converted into the PPP equivalent of that resources price index.

If so, I assume China's actual economic size relative to the US is approximate parity as of 2020. Problem is for many high technology items nominal GDP is a better use, so China's PPP metric doesn't really align with China's ability to produce X number of planes or other high-tech stuff IMO.
 

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If you're moving to China you should consider Changsha. I've heard fantastic things about Changsha - the government has a very aggressive 不炒房 房子是用来住的不是用来炒的 policy. Anyway I heard you like ogling Korean girls hahahaha, Changsha girls are beautiful. I'm definitely considering going there. Gonna get slaughtered alive by my girlfriend I better run

@Gatekeeper did you know before 9/11 you could enter the cockpit for sightseeing? My father brought me there and it was beautiful. I wanted to hijack the plane right there and crash it
Hi Crang,

Changsha girls are beautiful.

Yes, But I prefer beautiful ladies from Chengdu and Chongqing, Maybe eating spicy food may had a role in it.
 
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