CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Max Demian

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It seems people have the notion that there is a large step in going to nuclear in both technology and ship design. I have no expertise in ship design, but nuclear reactor merely replaces the boiler and nuclear reactors are likely much smaller than boilers.
Naval PWR are low temperature designs (also known as slow reactors) and operate at lower pressures than conventional steam plants, and therefore have less thermal efficiency and need to use larger turbines than conventional plants. Nuclear reactors require very heavy foundations and lead shielding which has a strong impact on hull design. It’s really not a plug-and-play switch at all.

A nuclear plant allows for substantial volume savings in a ship, that would have otherwise been consumed by fuel tanks and propulsion ventilation stacks. Such a ship can have smaller islands, will have a smaller IR signature and can sustain a higher aircraft sortie rate ( due to not needing to refuel as often).
 
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li450274625

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The deteriorating strategic environment is precisely why China might plausibly abandon, pause, or delay the development of a nuclear-powered carrier. Conventional carriers are both significantly cheaper and faster to build than nuclear carriers and can provide the numbers and aggregate capabilities that PLAN would require to play a strategically significant role without breaking the bank. Conventional offers PLAN much better bang for buck over the medium-term (e.g. period to ~2035-40) in which the strategic balance and political situation with the USA and other regional nations is going to be most tense. Going straight to nuclear is for peacetime when you don't care about delivering X capabilities by Y date for Z cost because the technology and expertise involved in the endeavour are the goals in and of themselves.

Personally, I don't think PLAN should look at nuclear carriers until they have at least six conventional carriers on the board. And not just because of the balance of power/buildup/budget considerations noted above, but also in terms of minimising PLAN's exposure to potentially revolutionary technologies that may threaten the long-term viability of the aircraft carrier. That is to say, conventional over nuclear would not only be about putting more carriers into service, faster, but also putting fewer eggs in the eye-wateringly expensive "carrier" basket in the first place, freeing up more resources for expenditure elsewhere.

076 LHD will make up for the slow building of real aircraft carriers. Functionally it will be small carrier, and it can be produced in relatively large quantity in a short amount of time, given the speed observed on 075 building.
 

hkky

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Naval PWR are low temperature designs (also known as slow reactors) and operate at lower pressures than conventional steam plants, and therefore have less thermal efficiency and need to use larger turbines than conventional plants. Nuclear reactors require very heavy foundations and lead shielding which has a strong impact on hull design. It’s really not a plug-and-play switch at all.
Yes, I heard naval reactor operating temperature is low, likely constrained when Admiral Rickover made the decision on the core material. I think the bigger difference in turbine efficiency is the ability of boilers to super heat the steam to flame temperatures which is even higher than commercial reactors.
I'd hope reactor designer would use water as the main shielding medium, since it is the most effective.
 

Intrepid

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Surprised that picture exists; even more surprised it is not classified.
The oldest aircraft carrier in the Nimitz class has been in service for 45 years, the youngest aircraft carrier in the Ford class with the same interior layout for 3 years. Let's assume that 1,700 new crew members (one third of the crew) get to know the ship every year. That adds up to 297 "aircraft carrier years" times 1,700 people; more than half a million women and men who know the ship type well from the inside.

Then why secrecy, everything is known to everyone anyway.

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