Hong-Kong Protests

[Surpluswarrior]

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Commentary: A roll-call from the United Nations on Hong Kong
Developing Countries Support China


July 6th, 2020

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Cuba spoke on behalf of 53 countries to deliver a joint statement on non-interference in the affairs of sovereign states. In asserting sovereignty in Hong Kong, China is fulfilling its responsibility as a state to ensure stability during a time of foreign interference. It is evident that many countries support China's position. It is the West's gang that opposes China's actions.

Those who talk about 'democracy for Hong Kong' forget that HK had no democracy during the entire period of white colonial rule. The entire nation-state of China now needs stability and security in order to become modern and advanced. Our Canadian politicians have further clarified the issue for us: Canada has to play along with whatever the U.S. wants on China.

 

[Weaasel]

Yes the Pentagon own study after study shows that the longer they wait, the more initiative they lose and the more advantage goes to China in a hot SCS situation... so its clear that there is a "window of opportunity" that is fastly closing, if not now then never sort of mentality. Time is on China's side, but that means the US will act soon, which means ironically time isn't on China's side.

US has said there is no way to win the SCS against China short of war, its not saying it won't go to war, but that going to war is the only way to win. If its going to go to war, then sooner would be better. With a Trump reelection in the balance, they would have to do it before November.

US always goes to war to protect the Petrodollar hegemony. Look at the US shale in shambles, look at the COVID situation that backfired, look at China launching digital Yuan and the Iran signing multidecade deals with China/Russia, NordStream 2 still proceeding as planned, Artic opening up, all these spells doom for the Petrodollar... If they don't go to war this year to last ditch attempt salvage the dollar, they might as well throw in the MAGA hat and call it quits for being world superpower/policeman.

They also refuse to shift from the paradigm of a fossil fuel dominated economy, while China is reducing its share of fossil fuels in power stations and steadily increasing its share of nuclear power and renewables. Within 20 to 30 years, China would have probably done away with crude oil imports, and even if uses petroleum, it might be petroleum produced from algae.

 

[Dolcevita]

But the US never goes to war against nuclear powers even as small as North Korea much less a country like China or Russia.

Would not rule this out entirely. Remember Trump cares only about Trump. Without any adult supervision left, he could desperately start a war if he thinks it will help him win his re-election.

 

[Tam]

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Commentary: A roll-call from the United Nations on Hong Kong
Developing Countries Support China


July 6th, 2020

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Cuba spoke on behalf of 53 countries to deliver a joint statement on non-interference in the affairs of sovereign states. In asserting sovereignty in Hong Kong, China is fulfilling its responsibility as a state to ensure stability during a time of foreign interference. It is evident that many countries support China's position. It is the West's gang that opposes China's actions.

Those who talk about 'democracy for Hong Kong' forget that HK had no democracy during the entire period of white colonial rule. The entire nation-state of China now needs stability and security in order to become modern and advanced. Our Canadian politicians have further clarified the issue for us: Canada has to play along with whatever the U.S. wants on China.

Much of Islamic nations around the world voted in favor of China, including Saudi Arabia. That means attempts to demonize China in front of the Islamic world around the Uighur issue has fallen flat.

Another thing of note is how the British banks voted with their wallet on this.

 

[hullopilllw]

Much of Islamic nations around the world voted in favor of China, including Saudi Arabia. That means attempts to demonize China in front of the Islamic world around the Uighur issue has fallen flat.

Another thing of note is how the British banks voted with their wallet on this.

Oh that is due to China bribing those Islamic nations with debt trap investments. The West alone knew the 'plights' of the Uighurs and stand with them.

 

[emblem21]

Oh that is due to China bribing those Islamic nations with debt trap investments. The West alone knew the 'plights' of the Uighurs and stand with them.

Well the USA is trying to bribe there own people out of an economic collapse. Since all the jobs are lost due to Trump being an idiot. Sooner or later either the bribe money runs out or the value of the dollar does completely bust

 

[supersnoop]

I just have to say it
5 DEMANDS NOT 1 LESS
五大訴求, 缺一不可

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Seattle police declare demonstrations supporting Portland protests a riot

 

[emblem21]

I just have to say it
5 DEMANDS NOT 1 LESS
五大訴求, 缺一不可

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Seattle police declare demonstrations supporting Portland protests a riot

Interesting that the actions in HK are now coming back to the USA to bite. I guess this is what you would call a two way street

 

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[Mr T]

Those who talk about 'democracy for Hong Kong' forget that HK had no democracy during the entire period of white colonial rule.

First, democracy is more than elections. It's also about freedom of speech, rule of law and judicial independence. Hong Kong had all of those things before 1997. Indeed, trust in the HK Police Force was high in 1997, as was in the judiciary to decide cases fairly, etc.

Second, it's far easier for China to allow autonomy in HK - a city which is on its doorstep - than it is when theroretically governed by a country like the UK thousands of miles away.

Third, the "democracy" that the CCP now appears to be allowing Hong Kong is worthless. There are no plans for allowing open elections for the Chief Executive or removing the Fuctional Constituencies, legislators now apparently have to agree that they'll vote through government business else they're breaking "the law", people can be sent to China for prosecution because the CCP wants it, criticising the law is potentially unlawful, etc.

Perhaps we need a new phrase to describe HK's future - "democracy with Chinese characteristics".