Mr T
Senior Member
Let me say it again. There is no such thing as primary in HK.
There's a first time for everything. Also, primaries are not run by a territory's officials or government - unless it's a one-party state (in which case primaries are unlikely anyway).
It is just an attempt by the oppositions to eliminate competition
Yes, that's the exact point of a primary - to narrow down the candidates for one party or political grouping to avoid votes being split. Do you think the Democrats would have any chance of ousting Donald Trump if they had 3 candidates instead of 1?
An illegal primary that sole purpose is to sabotage the LegCo is unlawful.
What HK law specifically bans primaries? I'm thinking of a law with a specific provision on primaries rather than the new "anything the CCP doesn't like is banned" national security legislatation.
So you think it is ok.
Nice strawman - I didn't say it was ok. But if opposition lawmakers received anonymous threats, that doesn't invalidate the primary. Otherwise, pro-CCP trolls could make the threats and therefore sabotage the primaries, thereby increasing the chances of the pro-democracy parties splitting their votes.
If the HK authorities think the threats are a problem, perhaps they should use the new national security legislation to identify the people who made the threats and prosecute them. Or is the law just reserved for protecting pro-CCP officials and politicians?
Primary voters favor more ideologically extreme. It is just the case for places that have primary elections.
There is no empirical evidence for that, unless you want to suggest that Obama was selected as the Democratic 2008 candidate by "extremists". Also, in the case of HK, it's understandable that younger candidates would be selected as young HKers are most politically engaged right now, and there is an argument that the softly-softly approach of the traditional pan-democrat legislators hasn't changed anything.
DP has complained to the media and organizers for frauds and attempts to vote for multiple times.
I'll ask you again more clearly. Can you provide some newspaper articles that confirm those complaints, or that state the Democratic Party is unwilling to accept the primary result? If you're just relying on internet rumours, that's not enough.
You keep repeating that as if moderates have a choice.
They do have a choice, especially if they feel the primary process was flawed. What are they risking by standing - people not voting for them in the future? If they don't run they don't get votes anyway!
If these people have a brain then they wouldn't have supported the oppositions in the first place.
Ah, so any vote except for a pro-CCP party is a "stupid" vote. Because the pro-CCP parties that have run Hong Kong since 1997 have done such an outstanding job, with spiralling property prices, lack-luster wages for ordinary people and crap public spending.