Hong-Kong Protests

Mr T

Senior Member
Let me say it again. There is no such thing as primary in HK.

There's a first time for everything. Also, primaries are not run by a territory's officials or government - unless it's a one-party state (in which case primaries are unlikely anyway).

It is just an attempt by the oppositions to eliminate competition

Yes, that's the exact point of a primary - to narrow down the candidates for one party or political grouping to avoid votes being split. Do you think the Democrats would have any chance of ousting Donald Trump if they had 3 candidates instead of 1?

An illegal primary that sole purpose is to sabotage the LegCo is unlawful.

What HK law specifically bans primaries? I'm thinking of a law with a specific provision on primaries rather than the new "anything the CCP doesn't like is banned" national security legislatation.

So you think it is ok.

Nice strawman - I didn't say it was ok. But if opposition lawmakers received anonymous threats, that doesn't invalidate the primary. Otherwise, pro-CCP trolls could make the threats and therefore sabotage the primaries, thereby increasing the chances of the pro-democracy parties splitting their votes.

If the HK authorities think the threats are a problem, perhaps they should use the new national security legislation to identify the people who made the threats and prosecute them. Or is the law just reserved for protecting pro-CCP officials and politicians?

Primary voters favor more ideologically extreme. It is just the case for places that have primary elections.

There is no empirical evidence for that, unless you want to suggest that Obama was selected as the Democratic 2008 candidate by "extremists". Also, in the case of HK, it's understandable that younger candidates would be selected as young HKers are most politically engaged right now, and there is an argument that the softly-softly approach of the traditional pan-democrat legislators hasn't changed anything.

DP has complained to the media and organizers for frauds and attempts to vote for multiple times.

I'll ask you again more clearly. Can you provide some newspaper articles that confirm those complaints, or that state the Democratic Party is unwilling to accept the primary result? If you're just relying on internet rumours, that's not enough.

You keep repeating that as if moderates have a choice.

They do have a choice, especially if they feel the primary process was flawed. What are they risking by standing - people not voting for them in the future? If they don't run they don't get votes anyway!

If these people have a brain then they wouldn't have supported the oppositions in the first place.

Ah, so any vote except for a pro-CCP party is a "stupid" vote. Because the pro-CCP parties that have run Hong Kong since 1997 have done such an outstanding job, with spiralling property prices, lack-luster wages for ordinary people and crap public spending.
 

localizer

Colonel
Registered Member
Guys,

Please please please don't prolong this agony any longer! Let our friend have the last word! Let him win in his little world. So he can go back to living in it. And we all can live in ours.

Exactly.

Also, never argue with an internet troll that replies to every sentence you write. The troll is doing it for the sake of being annoying.

You can say, “Hongkong is part of China” or “2+2 = 4” and he will give you some retarded devil’s advocate answer like “countries/numbers are just abstract concepts”
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
Exactly.

Also, never argue with an internet troll that replies to every sentence you write. The troll is doing it for the sake of being annoying.

You can say, “Hongkong is part of China” or “2+2 = 4” and he will give you some retarded devil’s advocate answer like “countries/numbers are just abstract concepts”
Our friend might take a break but he isn't going away. lol

It just pointless there's no attempt to even explains anything. Just repeat and repeat what's already been rebuffed.

It's like:

We're saying the world is round, accept it and move on or proof it isn't so.

And he would say: Yeah, BUT if it was flat, then we would all fall of the edge! And........
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
What are they waiting for to ban LIHKG and Appledaily ?

They should ban all pro-independence websites
Patients my friend. Patients. Wait till everything dies down. Don't want to give the western government more excuses to retaliate.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
Sorry, this is in Chinese. Please use your own Google translation etc.

It basically said, the British judges might leave their post and return to the UK if they find themselves compromised by having to apply the newly created Chinese national security law.

It also said that every year, the UK send two judges to Hong Kong to hear the court of appeal! What! Where in the world would allowed that, and the MSM us trying to say Hong Kong is not free!

Good riddance I say!


英國法官可能因國家安全法退出香港 英國最資深的法官警告說,如果國家安全法威脅到法院的獨立性,英國法官將在香港辭職。 最高法院院長羅伯特·里德(Robert Reed)表示,它支持香港法官“致力於維護司法獨立和法治”。法官週五在一份聲明中說,最高法院將“繼續評估局勢”。 里德在對香港局勢的空前干預中說:“新的安全法包含許多引起關注的條款。” “其效果將取決於它在實踐中的應用方式。” 由民主派譴責的這項立法突然對金融中心的普通法體系施加了深遠的影響。它賦予香港行政長官任命法官處理案件的權力,而北京政府也有權管轄一些與外國影響或其他“嚴重情況”有關的“複雜”案件。 自1997年移交以來,英國已派出兩名現任法官在香港終審法院審理案件。

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