Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
In the West (especially America & Australia), any Chinese news agency is regarded as an official Chinese government agency. As such they are operated under strictly controlled conditions with everything negative thrown at them.

This is how the USA throw out Chinese news agencies recently by labelling them "government agencies". Could you imagine what the uproar would be if it's the other way round?
 

supercat

Major
The following link gives you an example of the time and effort some of the Western MSM would go through to "debunk fake Chinese news". As I said, the propaganda war waged against China by the Western MSM is absolutely relentless.

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Oh, and the same media outlet is not hesitate to downplay China's effort to develop COVID-19 vaccines:

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Situation in the U.S. on 5/3:
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Situation in China on 5/3, excluding HK, Macau, and TW:
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coolieno99

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Posted by "Strangelove" at CDF

Ten questions the US needs to offer clear answers to the world

1. Regarding the restarted avian influenza virus modification experiment last year, why does the US release no more updates?

The Science reported in February 2019 that US authorities had quietly approved the avian influenza virus modification experiment. The research, aiming to transform the H5N1 virus to be more capable of infecting mammals, was controversial and considered extremely dangerous. Some experts believe that the modification may increase the risk of human-to-human transmission of the virus.

The question is why the US government decided to unfreeze the experiment 4 years after it was halted, and why there are no more updates regarding the experiment.

2. The United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) was previously closed.What is the truth behind ?

The Global Biodefence reported in April that the USAMRIID, US Army's primary institution and facility for biological research headquartered in Fort Detrick, Maryland, has resumed full operation. The institution was once ordered to halt the study of biological select agents and toxins (BSATs) last July. In March, there was a petition on the White House website demanding the clarification of the shutdown of USAMRIID. Given that these issues have become a primary public concern, what is the US government's response?

3. The US Department of Health and Human Services ran a scenario last year that was similar to the COVID-19 outbreak. Is this just a coincidence?

In March, the New York Times quoted a draft report obtained from the US government saying that from January to August 2019, the US Department of Health and Human Services ran a scenario called "Crimson Contagion" that simulated the fictional outbreak involving a group of tourists visiting China. They then became infected and flew to various countries, including the US.

Last October, a high-level pandemic exercise named Event 201 was hosted by a couple of US organizations. The drill simulated a scenario that a fictional virus called CAPS, which causes more severe symptoms than SARS and transmits via the respiratory route like the common flu, had caused a pandemic. Like COVID-19, there is no vaccine for CAPS.

Given the fact that the simulated virus is so much like COVID-19, is this just a coincidence? Another question is, why did it not take enough preventive measures at the early stages of the coronavirus outbreak since the US has predicted a similar pandemic?

4. US intelligence officials warned of coronavirus crisis as early as last November. Why the warning was ignored?

In April, according to the American Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), it was said that, as early as late November 2019, US intelligence officials had warned the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon, and the White House that an infectious disease was sweeping through Wuhan, China.

Last November, the US National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) issued a report detailing the coronavirus pandemic, which was later identified as "COVID-19". Some analysts believed that the outbreak in Wuhan might have evolved into a catastrophic event. According to the Washington Post, in more than two months from January to February, Trump had received intensive warnings from the US intelligence agencies about the coronavirus. Why did the US government not declare a "National Emergency" until March 13?

5. Among the reported influenza deaths in the US, can the US clarify how many cases are actually infected with COVID-19?

Japanese Asahi Television reported on February 21 that some of the 14,000 people reportedly killed by influenza in the US might have died from coronavirus, which became a hot topic soon after.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a report at the end of February, showing that there have been at least 32 million flu illnesses in the US that winter.  

On March 11, at the House of Representatives, Robert Redfield, the director of the US CDC, admitted that some in the US who were previously thought to have been killed from the flu may have been infected with coronavirus.  

Among the reported influenza deaths in the US, how many cases were infected with COVID-19? Did the US government cover up the spread of coronavirus with the flu? When will the US government make public the samples of the US influenza virus and its genetic sequence, or allow experts from the WHO or the United Nations to sample and analyze?

6. When did the novel coronavirus first appear in the US? Did community transmission of the coronavirus start sooner than it was reported?

A report released in late April by local health authorities suggests that a 57-year-old woman from Santa Clara County of California died from COVID-19 on February 6, some 20 days earlier than the date the US announced its first death caused by the virus.  

The Los Angeles Times quoted Santa Clara County health officer Sara Cody in a piece saying, "we presume that each of them represents community transmission and that there was some significant level of virus circulating in our community in early February."

County Executive Officer Jeffrey V. Smith said this is evidence that the coronavirus was circulating in California as early as January or even earlier.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has ordered all counties in the state to review autopsies of suspected coronavirus deaths dating back to December.

When did the novel coronavirus first appear in the US? Did community transmission of the coronavirus start sooner than it was reported?

7. How did the US get the virus strains so soon to start the first human testing of a vaccine against COVID-19?

The Wall Street Journal on March 16 reported that the first human testing of Moderna Inc.'s experimental vaccine against the COVID-19 had already begun. Experts immediately raised questions about the speed of the vaccine development, saying that it would not be possible unless the US had obtained the virus strains from very early on. So how did the US start the first human testing of the vaccine so soon? When and how did they get the virus strains?

8. Why did the US government keep downplaying the pandemic while its officials privately dumped stocks?

According to the Washington Post, US Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr and his wife sold up to 1.7 million in 33 different stocks just one week before the market plunged. Why did these officials at the Committee act so quickly while the government was continually understating the pandemic?

Why is the vital information kept confidential to the public while the government officials were taking advantage to practice insider-trading?

9. Why are US experts not allowed to discuss COVID-19 in public?

The New York Times reported that the White House began tightening controls for all coronavirus messaging from health officials on February 27 after Vice President Mike Pence led the nation's epidemic prevention and control efforts.

Several scientists and government health officials, including the nation's leading infectious disease expert Anthony S. Fauci, have been asked to make statements or make public appearances about the COVID-19 only after consultation with the US vice president's office.

Why does the United States, which claims free speech, not allow experts and scholars to discuss the novel coronavirus in public? Does the US want to hide something or fear of something?

10. What research is being done in the US overseas biological laboratories? Why does the US keep tight-lipped about it?

Natalia Poklonskaya, deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs, has proposed verifying the legitimacy of US biological laboratories around the world, according to Sputnik news agency.

Not long ago, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry expressed concern about the establishment of a biological laboratory in countries from the former Soviet Union.

Grigory Trofimchuk, a Russian expert in the field of internal affairs, foreign affairs, and national defense, said the work of these biological laboratories was never disclosed to the outside world, and that they had caused several problems, with widespread outbreaks of dangerous infectious diseases such as measles at the laboratory site.

What research is being done in these biological laboratories? Why does the US keep tight-lipped about the function, use, the safety of these biological laboratories?

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Rettam Stacf

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This is an interesting article on the complicated politics of racing to develop the first working Covid-19 vaccine. Do not let the title mislead you into thinking it is all against Trump. Typical Western MSM, it also includes the obligatory China bashing.

On Monday (May 4th), the European Union is hosting a gathering for countries to pledge funding for research into vaccines and treatments for Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. But once again the U.S. government isn’t expected to participate. China will likely attend but may not want to contribute much money.

Well, the US and China governments, and to a lesser degree, the UK government also, are already pumping a lot of their own money into companies from their own respective country to develop the vaccine, and are seeing some results. Several are in various phases of human clinical trial. The EU is way behind with only one German company (assuming UK no longer part of EU) just getting ready to start Phase 1 trial. So why would the US, China or UK want to spend more money to help out EU ? The meeting looks to be out of EU's fear of not having their own vaccine and being at the mercy of the US and/or China.

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Just my personal opinion. If a Chinese company successfully develops a vaccine. China should buy up the right to the vaccine and donated it to the WHO for the benefits of all member countries who fully pay their dues.
 
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SteelBird

Colonel
The Trump Administration keeps accusing China for hiding severity of the virus. I don't understand one thing; when the virus first emerge in Wuhan, China, did any body warned China how dangerous the virus was? How come China could eventually control virus but not the Trump Administration? Cambodia has reported 20 days of no new case and there are only active 2 cases. Why not the US?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Anyone remember Galileo? Europeans got money from China then proceeded to shut China out while giving access to other countries who contributed nothing. You be assured that if the US has the vaccine first and if Trump is still in office, you don't see the US making demands before sharing it?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
The Trump Administration keeps accusing China for hiding severity of the virus. I don't understand one thing; when the virus first emerge in Wuhan, China, did any body warned China how dangerous the virus was? How come China could eventually control virus but not the Trump Administration? Cambodia has reported 20 days of no new case and there are only active 2 cases. Why not the US?

We're living in an era where people don't think for themselves hence people don't see those questions.
 
saw about two pages of West/China propaganda comparisons, well perhaps Chinese could adapt Russian-around-2014 model (incredibly successful at that time with Sputnik, Russia Today and one side and troll factories on the other)

as I've repeatedly said, I like Propaganda (in general; in particular I like, in graphical form, war posters; in written form, how negative news are presented)
 
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