China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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I saw some guy on TV claim that Trump was going to propose a new nuclear arms reduction treaty between the US and Russia that also included China but he's counting on China to reject it so he can use it as an excuse to instead make more nukes for the US. I'd say if that happens, China should proposed the elimination of all nukes instead to counter and turn it back on the US.
 

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I saw some guy on TV claim that Trump was going to propose a new nuclear arms reduction treaty between the US and Russia that also included China but he's counting on China to reject it so he can use it as an excuse to instead make more nukes for the US. I'd say if that happens, China should proposed the elimination of all nukes instead to counter and turn it back on the US.
I Think China should Join the Nuclear Treaty.
That way China can easily accelerate its nuclear material production and warhead stockpiles to reflect the numbers of Russia and US
Ie 7000 warheads with 1600 deployed. Win Win.


Wait... Isn't that how it's supposed to work?
 

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I Think China should Join the Nuclear Treaty.
That way China can easily accelerate its nuclear material production and warhead stockpiles to reflect the numbers of Russia and US
Ie 7000 warheads with 1600 deployed. Win Win.


Wait... Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

Nah, it should be based on per capital count, like other meaningful statistical measurements of a country's parameters used by organizations like the IMF and WEF.
 

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What the actual operational DF-17 looks like.

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I saw some guy on TV claim that Trump was going to propose a new nuclear arms reduction treaty between the US and Russia that also included China but he's counting on China to reject it so he can use it as an excuse to instead make more nukes for the US. I'd say if that happens, China should proposed the elimination of all nukes instead to counter and turn it back on the US.


The lie begins...

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Many people said that the nuke warheads are expensive to maintain ... how expensive is it? ... why Russia with such limited defense budget could afford to have thousands nuke warheads ? I don't think China has any issues with the cost of maintaining the nukes ... and also China has enough plutonium (~3.6 tons) and HEI (~17 tons) for many thousands nukes. And for thermonuclear bomb, only small quantity of U-235 and Pu-239 is required. All (or most) Chinese nukes are thermonuclear bomb (hydrogen bomb) anyway

As to how little the quantity of Pu required for bomb, take a look at the paper below.
And do remember, that was only needed as initiator to light up the rest of the BIG BANG.
So even with 3.6 tons of Pu (with assumption China sat on her hands and not make a gram more of Pu since 1990) , you can calculate how many nukes China will be able to make and keep.
When as little as 1.5 kg of Pu is enought to light off the rest of the BIG BANG.

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Andrew Tate, London - Jane's Defence Weekly

18 February 2020


China is testing an intercontinental-range hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV), according to written testimony submitted to the US Senate Armed Services Committee on 13 February 2020 by US Air Force General Terrence J O’Shaughnessy, commander of US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) and of North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).

Although Gen O’Shaughnessy did not identify any specific weapon programme – saying only that the weapon “is designed to fly at high speeds and low altitudes, thus “complicating” the US ability to provide “precise warning” – he was likely referring to a weapon different from the DF-17 HGV-carrying ballistic missile that was exhibited at China’s National Day Parade on 1st October 2019 in Beijing.
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"In the meantime, China is also investing heavily to improve the survivability and penetrability of its nuclear forces in an effort to guarantee its ability to retaliate following a strategic first strike. Among the novel weapon systems China is testing is an intercontinental-range hypersonic glide vehicle—similar to the Russian Avangard—which is designed to fly at high speeds and low altitudes, complicating our ability to provide precise warning."
 
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