Hong-Kong Protests

manqiangrexue

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could be I didn't get a message you tried to convey, but for me the context has been (I was responding to another guy and you clipped out my first line) an individual has the right to contest in elections, as in (just cut-and-pasted googlefu below):
And I'm saying that human rights don't exist in practice and therefore, that "right" is nullified. You can only even try to claim the right to contest elections if you have a clean criminal record in most places; if you are a felon or have some other history of multiple arrests and serious crimes, your "human right" to contest elections will be taken away from you by society. Therefore, I'm saying in practice, don't rely on the illusion of having "rights"; rely on goodwill with your society ie. not having a criminal record. It think that's clear what my post means.
 
Its not anything to do with occasion per se.

It is the fact, Pepsi co. see fit to print "support police" on the side of their can that is the issue. They are basically saying rioters are bad! And have decided to take side and make a stance.

So the rioters have now callto the supporters to boycott Pepsi co.
you sure it's not a fake/prank:
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?

I'm guessing if it wasn't a fake/prank, we'd hear about it tomorrow (so far I found using google just this thread in Twitter:
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And I'm saying that human rights don't exist in practice and therefore, that "right" is nullified. You can only even try to claim the right to contest elections if you have a clean criminal record in most places; if you are a felon or have some other history of multiple arrests and serious crimes, your "human right" to contest elections will be taken away from you by society. Therefore, I'm saying in practice, don't rely on the illusion of having "rights"; rely on goodwill with your society ie. not having a criminal record. It think that's clear what my post means.
seeing "criminal record", I can't resist to link the following info about two consecutive Czechoslovak presidents:

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"In 1950, he fell victim to a
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purge of the party leadership, and was sentenced to life imprisonment, spending the years from 1954 to 1960 in the
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"His political activities resulted in multiple stays in prison, ..."

see? various things happen in the middle of Europe, LOL

as I said Today at 7:13 AM (and I'm sorry to repeat myself), they should've let that 23-years old run EDIT for an insignificant seat
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manqiangrexue

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seeing "criminal record", I can't resist to link the following info about two consecutive Czechoslovak presidents:

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"In 1950, he fell victim to a
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purge of the party leadership, and was sentenced to life imprisonment, spending the years from 1954 to 1960 in the
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."

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"His political activities resulted in multiple stays in prison, ..."

see? various things happen in the middle of Europe, LOL
Indeed, very strange things can happen in some places. But I was talking about laws in general all over the civilized world and a few outliers don't change the general trend. And anyway, different countries have to be known/famous for different things; China for its ability to challenge for the next superpower position in all areas, and I guess Czechoslovakia for... giving criminals the freedom to run in elections? To each his own.
 

supersnoop

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seeing "criminal record", I can't resist to link the following info about two consecutive Czechoslovak presidents:

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"In 1950, he fell victim to a
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purge of the party leadership, and was sentenced to life imprisonment, spending the years from 1954 to 1960 in the
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."

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"His political activities resulted in multiple stays in prison, ..."

see? various things happen in the middle of Europe, LOL

as I said Today at 7:13 AM (and I'm sorry to repeat myself), they should've let that 23-years old run

I think many people have said the same thing as you, just let him run and lose. It is a valid point.

However, his comrade Nathan Law (from my link) had won, refused to take the oath, and as such was disqualified from the Legislature. What a waste of resources.
Furthermore, don't forget that foreign influence can get you disqualified from office (anywhere in the world), just ask Mr. Donald Trump who is in some kind of trouble for this last time I checked...

He is also dishonest (Guess he is learning about elections quickly...), he said he has no intention of seeking independence, but if you read this article, he sounds like a weasel
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In my own opinion, I would probably lean towards letting him run myself. I think these people are an embarrassment. Let them show their ignorance.

As I said before, these people are actually the greatest impediment to any progress for HK. They refuse to denounce the rioters to show a "United Front", but that actually keeps the level of distrust high amongst regular people

Even this lawyer who had represented some of the student leaders quit his position in the law society over this
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This is one of the reasons that people so strongly believe in foreign interference. If the true goal of this movement was really greater self-determination in local decisionmaking, then there would be no need to continue with this facade of "leaderlessness". Certainly there would be someone willing to genuinely work within the 1 country framework without derailing the idea of more open elections into independence talk.

In Canada, the Bloc Quebecois had made gains in the recent election by expressly saying the pursuit of sovereignty for Quebec was no longer their main goal (formerly separatist party similar to the Scottish Nationalist party you had posted about).
 
... going of with 12 minutes ago, I'll make it a new post:

later found inside
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"Wong, the secretary-general of the political group Demosisto, was disqualified "as he did not comply with section 34(1) of the District Councils Ordinance," the HKSAR government said in a statement on Tuesday."

and then googled

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to see (used Ctrl+F 34)

"34.
What requirements are to be complied with by persons nominated as candidates
(1)
A person is not validly nominated as a candidate for an election unless—
(a)
a deposit has, in the manner prescribed by regulations in force under the Electoral Affairs Commission Ordinance (Cap. 541), been lodged by or on behalf of the person with the Returning Officer concerned; and
(b)
the nomination form includes or is accompanied by a declaration to the effect that the person will uphold the Basic Law and pledge allegiance to the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region.

(2)
The deposit is to be ..."

whatever, so what exactly a criminal record has to do with it?

where in that document
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is there a part about a candidate's criminal record:
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
do you have the full text (in English) of "returning officer Laura Liang Aron’s decision"
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can't find it using google, thanks
I do not, nor am I concerned about the legalities in Hong Kong at this time because all law has already broken down on the streets due to the terrorism exhibited by the pro-democracy rioters. The CCP can and should implement any methods that it sees fit, legal or otherwise, to crush this menace in every facet.
 

supersnoop

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... going of with 12 minutes ago, I'll make it a new post:

where in that document
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is there a part about a candidate's criminal record:

Nowhere, that was posters' opinions.
The election officer already said it is because he violated

Chapter I : General Principles
Article 1
The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region is an inalienable part of the People's Republic of China.
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There are many articles to this effect
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By advocating for independence, he has violated Article 1
Reading my previously posted article, he tried to create some truly far reaching mental hula hoops to get around his previous statements.
 
over the years many types of mud were slung at me here, but offering an unlawful activity, it's ... new

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LOL, it's certainly not new for you to support unlawful activity in Hong Kong.
How about defending the human rights you were lauding just one post earlier?

then I point to your attention
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
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it's not new for you to encourage unlawful activity in Hong Kong.
 
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