Hong-Kong Protests

manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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Jura said:
then I point to your attention
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
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LOL I know it obviously exists in written form; my whole post was saying that in practice and application, it's useless. In practice, everywhere you will come out ahead by being a good citizen to your country and you will lose if you try to use "human rights" to build walls around yourself thinking that now, you are no longer at the mercy of society.
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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my impression is the unrest runs out of steam
Halloween protests in Hong Kong: police fire tear gas in Mong Kok, Central and Sheung Wan as people denounce alleged force brutality and march against mask ban
  • Streets in bar district Lan Kwai Fong barricaded with water barriers for the first time while increased police presence already on the streets
  • Protesters are gathering across the city to mark two months since police operation in Prince Edward MTR station and to march from Victoria Park
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if interested, but there's not much inside I noticed except of a low number of protesters
 
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manqiangrexue said:
LOL I know it obviously exists in written form; my whole post was saying that in practice and application, it's useless. In practice, everywhere you will come out ahead by being a good citizen to your country and you will lose if you try to use "human rights" to build walls around yourself thinking that now, you are no longer at the mercy of society.
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Mate, you are wasting your time, I don't think he gets the difference between the letter and the spirit of human rights, or politic, or, indeed life in general. As I often said to my students:

Just because you could, it doesn't mean you should! Another word, we don't need any written "human rights". We are all guided by our own moral compass!

Which is why you have people who's law breakers even though we are told it is wrong to!
 
Jura The idiot

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manqiangrexue said:
LOL I know it obviously exists in written form; my whole post was saying that in practice and application, it's useless. In practice, everywhere you will come out ahead by being a good citizen to your country and you will lose if you try to use "human rights" to build walls around yourself thinking that now, you are no longer at the mercy of society.
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could be I didn't get a message you tried to convey, but for me the context has been (I was responding to another guy and you clipped out my first line) an individual has the right to contest in elections, as in (just cut-and-pasted googlefu below):
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The right to take part in the conduct of public affairs, including the right to vote and to stand for election, is at the core of democratic governments based on the ...
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Jura said:
who's he?
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Don't know, nor do I care. The fact he's a foreigner is irrelevant to me normally. But in this instance, I have seen reports (and I had posted videos showing foreign operatives at riots scenes directing rioters) that most foreigners at riot scenes are CIA/NED operatives. So I think its great that the police starts to arrest them as well!
 
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Jura The idiot

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Don't know, nor do I care. The fact he's a foreigner is irrelevant to me normally. But in this instance, I have seen reports (and I had posted videos showing foreign operatives at riots scenes directing rioters) that most foreigners at riot scenes are CIA/NED operatives. So I think its great that the police starts to arrest them as well!
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link to that picture could be useful:
 
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