Hong-Kong Protests

dratsabknihcllik

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Somewhat sidestepping:
In Paris protesters occupied a shopping mall and barricaded themselves. They were demanding ecological conservation.
The police pepper sprayed them. The protesters were there for a few hours.

Could not the police persuade them to leave.
 
sorry i can't read chinese

It just says that the HK educational system is subverted by 神父 牧師 教會 社工 disguise as teachers.

When I was in evangelical school, they(principal, pastor, missionaries, teachers) would strongly encourage destruction of idols (Buddha statue) and ask pre-teen school student to burn the family Buddhist Altar to prove they are ready to accept the lord as savior. This was standard teachings back then and not isolated to individual incident as many of my colleague experienced same type of indoctrination.

Today the HK students are either just plain too stupid or too preoccupied with academic pursuit(unlikely) or perhaps the indoctrination has become more sophisticated, the school children in HK have become victim of social and thought programming and they are become the creatures they are today.
 
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the boy shot was 14 years old, how can a kid have political thought? They are manipulated, why hong kong citizens accept vandalism from this bunch of hooligans?

That's not the youngest. There was a 12 year old girl arrested IIRC.

The anti-government mob is using child soldiers and human shields, no surprise with the scumbags who are the behind the scenes backers.
 
now I read
There’s no silent majority in Hong Kong, only a terrified minority while the rest are fine with mob rule and anarchy
  • Yonden Lhatoo questions the narrative that most Hongkongers are opposed to protest violence, as hardly anyone speaks out against the systematic destruction of what was once a great city
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That's what a terrorist sympathizer would say.
 
Between 10/1 to 10/5, there have been hundreds of riots in different part of HK. HKPF simply doesn't have the man power to put an end of these riots.


The problem is catch and release. Use live ammunition will stop that, then you can permanently remove the problem. Just a couple of shots to the knee caps is enough.

Or emergency extradition law, send them all to Xinjiang and do hard labor. Back in the day, there is internal exile to goulita, should resume that.

It is very curious, and ineffective, that the police have focused on dispersal rather than corralling the rioters and arresting them en masse. The police certainly have enough manpower to do that. I would have to chalk it up to more cowardice and indecision in the HK government leadership.

The next question would be where to hold them, the rumor of an island prison is actually a sensible albeit expensive idea as there will then be a need to supply, patrol, and protect it. Perhaps a relatively isolated corner of HK island or the New Territories would work. But the arrests need to happen first.

There should also be plenty of intelligence at this point to also arrest the conspirators behind the rioters, perhaps this should even take priority over arresting the rioters. A state of emergency should take care of the lax judiciary at least temporarily, but again it goes back to political will.
 

KYli

Brigadier
It is very curious, and ineffective, that the police have focused on dispersal rather than corralling the rioters and arresting them en masse. The police certainly have enough manpower to do that. I would have to chalk it up to more cowardice and indecision in the HK government leadership.

The next question would be where to hold them, the rumor of an island prison is actually a sensible albeit expensive idea as there will then be a need to supply, patrol, and protect it. Perhaps a relatively isolated corner of HK island or the New Territories would work. But the arrests need to happen first.

There should also be plenty of intelligence at this point to also arrest the conspirators behind the rioters, perhaps this should even take priority over arresting the rioters. A state of emergency should take care of the lax judiciary at least temporarily, but again it goes back to political will.

The current Commissioner of Police Stephen Lo would be retired in November. Therefore, Stephen Lo isn't going to stick his neck out now. That is a problem for bureaucrats as they tend to play it safe. There are many times in the early days of the riots that he didn't make a stand and ask the police to retreat. It looks pretty bad and weak and might have contributed and encouraged the riots in some way. There is a reason why they asked Lau to come back from retirement but some of the tactics Lau used were a little too controversial and risky for some people in the HKPF.

Of course in the end of the day, it is Carrie Lam that asked the HKPF to be restrained. You can't truly blame the HKPF for not doing their jobs when they could get prosecuted. It took the central government intervention to refute any attempts to set up a grand jury to investigate the HKPF. HKPF was worrying that they would get throw under the bus by Carrie Lam.

There is a discussion about setting up a temporary prison at the HK football stadium. Using an island prison might feed more conspiracy theories that cook up by the oppositions to discredit the HKPF. The problem is that the HK government needs to use the Emergency laws to grant the HKPF extra powers and extend the time of detainment. That goes back to your assessment, lack of political will.

Without the article 23, there are not much you can charge the conspirators behind the rioters. Majority of the ringleaders are just figurehead. Joshua Wong, Martin Lee, and Jimmy Lai are all dispensable. Using the emergency laws to shutoff Telegram, LIHKG, Appledaily, and Golden is probably easier and more effective.
 
The anti-government mob is using child soldiers and human shields, no surprise with the scumbags who are the behind the scenes backers.

Big question is who are those behind the scenes? The evangelical church and their Christian Persecution complex Syndrome soldiers.

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B.I.B.

Captain
It is very curious, and ineffective, that the police have focused on dispersal rather than corralling the rioters and arresting them en masse. The police certainly have enough manpower to do that. I would have to chalk it up to more cowardice and indecision in the HK government leadership.

The next question would be where to hold them, the rumor of an island prison is actually a sensible albeit expensive idea as there will then be a need to supply, patrol, and protect it. Perhaps a relatively isolated corner of HK island or the New Territories would work. But the arrests need to happen first.

There should also be plenty of intelligence at this point to also arrest the conspirators behind the rioters, perhaps this should even take priority over arresting the rioters. A state of emergency should take care of the lax judiciary at least temporarily, but again it goes back to political will.

Why is there a lack of political will?
I think too many rioters are back on the streets again within a few days of being arrested. In this emergency situation they should pass a law allowing all rioters to be held for up to 60 days without being charged. This would really mess with their daytime commitments which may result in them thinking twice before engaging in extreme behavior. This would take care of the culprits being given light sentences from a sympathetic judiciary.
The sentences for breaking the laws regarding the wearing of masks etc should contain a minimum and maximum period of incarceration such as 1 year up to 25yrs as wells as a stipulated fine. Perhaps chipping them as we do with our pet dogs could also be considered.
Near empty hotels can be utilized to house these detainees at say 10 to a room or they can recreate accommodation centers like the ones the US uses to house the illegal immigrants from Central America until a longer term incaceration can be found in China.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
My father won a school limited ticket rafffel ticket sponsored by Cathay Pacific. There were only 200 tickets at $500 a ticket for a return Business Class ticket any destination of our choosing. We are travelling to NewYork from Auckland with a stopover in Hong Kong for a week in late November before travelling on to London, then New York. We were hoping that the trouble would have died off by then.
 
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