Looks like China has no choice but form military alliance with iran

tidalwave

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Forming an alliance together to counter their common enemy.

Iran is staunch ally in terms of using yuan for its economic activities with China.

Right now , they are connected through rail line through Pakistan or Turkmenistan.

With China weapons and economic lifeline iran can withstand against common enemy. HQ9, YJ18, and JH7A , DF21D , Yuan ought to be in Iran arsenal now.

And j31 in the future.

Russia and China may still have some differences but Iran and China are nature partners and ought to form military alliance.

China's CPEC in Pakistan should extend into Iran.

Iran has support from EU but which rather spineless, not able to stand up ..

Taiwan right now, is getting all kinds of weapons and support to fend off China.

At this point, there's no more reservation.

There's clearly defined who the common enemy is.

No more ambiguousness.

Before China has reservation of getting too close with Iran for the sake of trade with common enemy but now the basis is fast disappearing.

When China enemy have clear goal of destroying China economically to cause regime change.

The once interdependence in trade which anchors the relationship is evaporating fast.

China willing to sacrifice Israel relationship which is noncritical for this.
 
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tidalwave

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China belt and Road project got sabotaged in alot of places.

But the backbone of it should be CPEC and expansion into Iran.
If that accomplished, other places will fall into place eventually.

Once that done, Afghanistan then can be brought into the fold, together, the enemy can be ousted from Afghanistan.
 
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gelgoog

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There are have been overtures from Russia and I guess China in terms of weapon sales to Iran. Problem is the Iranian government does not seem to be interested in relying on a foreign power for its equipment. They only do small weapons purchases and want to produce weapons internally. While that is a laudable goal in the long term, in the short term it means their weapon systems will be severely outdated.
 

tidalwave

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There are have been overtures from Russia and I guess China in terms of weapon sales to Iran. Problem is the Iranian government does not seem to be interested in relying on a foreign power for its equipment. They only do small weapons purchases and want to produce weapons internally. While that is a laudable goal in the long term, in the short term it means their weapon systems will be severely outdated.
Iran wants alot of the 022, at least 80 of them.
 

MrCrazyBoyRavi

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why would china ally with Iran and then ruins its relationship with Saudi , Quatar, UAE , Israel ,USA ? Basically IRAN is a no no for china.
 

Phead128

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A comprehensive strategy .partnership, not an article 5 arrangement. Basically an all-aspect alliance but without the paper treaty.
 

tidalwave

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why would china ally with Iran and then ruin its relationship with USA ? Basically IRAN is a no no for china.
You must be joking right? Ruining relationship with US? ?? Duh. Do you even pay attention to what's going on?

So you saying Iran is for India to keep and not for China?
 

tidalwave

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A comprehensive strategy .partnership, not an article 5 arrangement. Basically an all-aspect alliance but without the paper treaty.
Given the current geopolotical atmosphere, it doesn't really matter paper or paperless. Pretty much there's nothing really needed to hide at this point.
China is openly regarded as the biggest existentialist threat by US, more evil than iran, Russia, NK combined
 

Gloire_bb

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You must be joking right? Ruining relationship with US? ?? Duh. Do you even pay attention to what's going on?

So you saying Iran is for India to keep and not for China?
Iran has quite a list of mutually exclusive enemies.
Such a list what even Russia(!) is...disheartened to go too deep. And it has essentially no real friends in the region. But healthy relationship with Israel is already worth it.
With US or without, China has important trade links with all gulf states. Balancing them and Iran as it is was already troublesome enough.

+as if not enough, Iran is very...self conscious(mild term; arrogant isa better one), if you will. It is a civilization with roots going deeper than anyone around(not only China can brag about thousands of years of history), and it has both pride and its own independent agenda. Even in its current, supressed state.
 

Xizor

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China must help iran as much as possible. It must continue supporting Iran with oil purchases and technology. But at the same time, it needs to ensure massive purchases of weapons (like UAVs ) from the Gulf States and make sure cordial relationship with Israel is maintained. Israel is the unrecognized outlet of US military technology. Israel has successfully developed many technologies in defence with the blessings of US and Co. Israel has even stolen a lot of military technologies from the US ,whenever it found unwillingness from US part for extending help. China, if the cards are played right, can make Israel an asset and source of valuable military R&D and technology from the west. The US has limited power over israel. Basically, China should play Iran vs Israel vs Gult states vs Levant game carefully and with a clear intention of self benefit. Its a dog eat dog world.
 
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