Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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plawolf

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Although I have been advocating that China leave EU out of the trade war with US if not getting it as an ally. It seems that favour is not returned in kind from EU. Here is the latest report on EU's position made clear and loud by EU's trade commissioner Cecilia Malmstrom.
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She is arguing for an alliance of US and EU against China. She declared that EU and US agrees on principle, disagree on approach (through WTO or not). At beginning I suspected the usually American media trick of playing one against another by misinterpretation. So I went to the EU commission's official web site. To my surprise, the reports are accurate. Here is the official statement.
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Although the tile looks innocent, the content tells the real deal. I quote,


I will comment each highlights, each bullet to every paragraph.
  • Propose a renewed alliance with US, singling out China as the primary target.
  • Americans and Europeans OWN the earth, are the natural "leader" of it, or more precisely the lord and master of the planet with everybody else being serfs.
  • China takes advantage of rules, echo of Trump. China is the centre of the target, and should be "solved".
  • Share the same view and goal with Trump (but want to do it through WTO). Once again, "we" "own" the world by setting rules for it.
  • Once again, "we" the alliance to IMPOSE our values upon others.
This is EXACTLY what happened to Japan in the 1980s when US allied with EU "fxxked" Japan with the "Plaza Accord". EU is trying to do the same again on their own initiative. In the 1980s it was US idea. We all know what damage was made to Japan.

The woman is also saying "I beg you stop fxxking me, don't you see the other woman, go fxxk her, I am going to hold her for you." What a piece of whore she is!:eek::mad:

I was a strong advocate for European unity until this day for the sake that I live here, but now I change me mind because I'd rather living poorer than being part of this kind of "fxxk up", I'd rather starve than feeding on other people corps. I would be glad to see China approaching friendlier EU countries in the south and east ignoring the kind of Europeans like this woman (splitting EU as being called).

I also wonder if Japan was ever taken as "we" by the west, or more likely just another alien to a lesser extent (than China). On that account, I feel sorry for Japan.

A direct response to EU's back-stabbing act would be for China making concessions to Trump on the expense of EU, such as Boeing instead of Airbus etc. I know this will play into Trump's plan, but as Donald Tusk once said "with friend like this, who need enemy". What an irony?:rolleyes:

Totally agree that there are a lot of racial supremacist in Europe as well as the US. What more, after decades of quasi-colonialisation and media brainwashing, a lot of Europeans feel more loyalty towards the US than their own peoples and governments.

However, the way to deal with the EU isn’t to split it up, but rather to keep it together.

As a group of 27 that required unanimous agreement, the EU is easily managed by only needing to get one member state to fight your corner. The US has been doing just that to steer the EU for decades.

Once the belt and road reached Western Europe in earnest, I think attitudes in those countries will shift massively in favour of China as Chinese investment start bettering those countries, and easier(cheaper) transport links brings more direct people-to-people exchanges, which should go a long way towards countering the relentless negativity of the western media’s China reporting.

Brexit is still a huge benefit for Russia and China because it pushed out America’s chief advocate within the EU. But that is really a one-off move rather than a long term strategy.

Actively trying to break up the EU would be the best way to unite the whole the EU against you, and unfcuk the tangled web of red tap and opposing interests that normally so effectively paralysis the EU.

To actively go after the EU would be to fall into the trap set by useful idiots like that Malmstrom woman, who most likely secretly sees herself as American.

Useful idiots like her don’t mind undermining the EU’s interests so long as it advanced America’s. It’s only not viewed as treasonous because it has been so normalised in Europe thanks to American media brainwashing.

Malmstrom would most likely to glad if China hit the EU with massive sanctions and caused huge economic damage and hardship for her people because at least that will help her to get the EU and US to make nice again. :rolleyes:
 

CMP

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Totally agree that there are a lot of racial supremacist in Europe as well as the US. What more, after decades of quasi-colonialisation and media brainwashing, a lot of Europeans feel more loyalty towards the US than their own peoples and governments.

However, the way to deal with the EU isn’t to split it up, but rather to keep it together.

As a group of 27 that required unanimous agreement, the EU is easily managed by only needing to get one member state to fight your corner. The US has been doing just that to steer the EU for decades.

Once the belt and road reached Western Europe in earnest, I think attitudes in those countries will shift massively in favour of China as Chinese investment start bettering those countries, and easier(cheaper) transport links brings more direct people-to-people exchanges, which should go a long way towards countering the relentless negativity of the western media’s China reporting.

Brexit is still a huge benefit for Russia and China because it pushed out America’s chief advocate within the EU. But that is really a one-off move rather than a long term strategy.

Actively trying to break up the EU would be the best way to unite the whole the EU against you, and unfcuk the tangled web of red tap and opposing interests that normally so effectively paralysis the EU.

To actively go after the EU would be to fall into the trap set by useful idiots like that Malmstrom woman, who most likely secretly sees herself as American.

Useful idiots like her don’t mind undermining the EU’s interests so long as it advanced America’s. It’s only not viewed as treasonous because it has been so normalised in Europe thanks to American media brainwashing.

Malmstrom would most likely to glad if China hit the EU with massive sanctions and caused huge economic damage and hardship for her people because at least that will help her to get the EU and US to make nice again. :rolleyes:

Good point. I can’t help but to agree with your logic.
 

taxiya

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Totally agree that there are a lot of racial supremacist in Europe as well as the US. What more, after decades of quasi-colonialisation and media brainwashing, a lot of Europeans feel more loyalty towards the US than their own peoples and governments.

However, the way to deal with the EU isn’t to split it up, but rather to keep it together.

As a group of 27 that required unanimous agreement, the EU is easily managed by only needing to get one member state to fight your corner. The US has been doing just that to steer the EU for decades.

Once the belt and road reached Western Europe in earnest, I think attitudes in those countries will shift massively in favour of China as Chinese investment start bettering those countries, and easier(cheaper) transport links brings more direct people-to-people exchanges, which should go a long way towards countering the relentless negativity of the western media’s China reporting.

Brexit is still a huge benefit for Russia and China because it pushed out America’s chief advocate within the EU. But that is really a one-off move rather than a long term strategy.

Actively trying to break up the EU would be the best way to unite the whole the EU against you, and unfcuk the tangled web of red tap and opposing interests that normally so effectively paralysis the EU.

To actively go after the EU would be to fall into the trap set by useful idiots like that Malmstrom woman, who most likely secretly sees herself as American.

Useful idiots like her don’t mind undermining the EU’s interests so long as it advanced America’s. It’s only not viewed as treasonous because it has been so normalised in Europe thanks to American media brainwashing.

Malmstrom would most likely to glad if China hit the EU with massive sanctions and caused huge economic damage and hardship for her people because at least that will help her to get the EU and US to make nice again. :rolleyes:
Indeed, I must agree with your approach. While to admit, mine was merely a rant out of anger. And yes, working closer with friendlier EU countries to the south and east will serve to steer the whole. Winning the hearts of more Europeans will certainly reduce the number of the likes of Malmstrom.

As a footnote, the recent report of Chinese trade showed that EU (26% of China's totally foreign trade) is far ahead of US (11%) as China's trading partner and being increasingly so, while countries along OBOR (40%) is even bigger than EU with a high margin. Even Japan holds 9%, far higher than US per capital.
 

ahho

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This is supposedly the crime that Huawei and Meng Wanzhou allegedly had committed against the humanity, or at least the US: Around 2013, Meng told HSBC in Hong Kong, with which Huawei had a banking business with the branch in Hong Kong, that Huawei no longer had relationship with Skycom, a company that had business dealing in Iran. Because of that statement, HSBC helped transfer money for Huawei. The US jurisdiction over HSBC is supposedly due to the fact that HSBC also operates in the US. Therefore, Ms. Meng was charged with the crime of "bank fraud." By the way, Huawei maintained that they had sold their stakes in Skycom in 2009.

This is not even the worst form of extraterritoriality and long-arm jurisdiction. French company Alstom's executive Frédéric Pierucci was arrested at JFK in 2013 by the US authority due to a bribery charge against the company. Alstom supposedly got a commercial contract from Indonesia using bribe, and Mr. Pierucci's crime was that he was cc'd in an email talking about the bribe. But why does the US DOJ get involved into a business transaction between a French company and Indonesia authority occurred far from the US territory to begin with?

I'll post the Economist report in a separate post.

I think the main issue is not HSBC having precense in the US, but it uses US dollar licenese. Remember whenever someone commited a crime deemed by the US while using US dollar, the American government can arrest such peron. eventhough they did not commit such crime in the US or was not considered a crime in the country the "crimial was operating in
 

antiterror13

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I think the main issue is not HSBC having precense in the US, but it uses US dollar licenese. Remember whenever someone commited a crime deemed by the US while using US dollar, the American government can arrest such peron. eventhough they did not commit such crime in the US or was not considered a crime in the country the "crimial was operating in

and it means more and more people/companies/countries will not US$ as a transaction currency ... too risky. It also mean the US$ hegemony will end sooner
 
missed earlier this week (it's dated 17:41, 07-Mar-2019)
Beijing: Huawei suing U.S. government is 'absolutely appropriate'
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It is "absolutely appropriate and reasonable" for companies to take legal actions to protect their legitimate rights, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said Tuesday when asked for comments on
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Chinese telecom giant Huawei confirmed earlier Thursday that it is suing the U.S. government over the U.S. National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which was introduced last year and bans government agencies from buying its equipment.

Speaking of the act, Lu said that China has lodged solemn representations to the act and has stated its stance clearly on this issue, but he did not comment on whether the Chinese government will work with Huawei to file the lawsuit, saying he has no knowledge of the situation.

According to Huawei's statement, Section 889 of the 2019 NDAA not only bars all U.S. Government agencies from buying Huawei equipment and services, but also bars them from contracting with or awarding grants or loans to third parties who buy Huawei equipment or services, without any executive or judicial process.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Via Long
China's FULLY indigenous SSD comes into being :coffee::D

完全自主国产固态硬盘——紫光存储已经量产,此次不再上展会上的工程样板,而是批量出货,带有完整的型号名(S5170-256)、CE和FCC认证的成品固态硬盘。

完全自主的含义:
1. 主控芯片自主——采用了国产联芸(MAXIO)主控。
2. NAND Flash自主——采用了国产紫光的颗粒。
3. 固件自主——同样由国产主控企业联芸提供。
4. 生产自主——中国国内生产制造。
5. 设计、技术支持和服务,不用再依赖进口。
6. 还要能用好用——满足客户多元化定制的需求。

此次出货的紫光存储固态硬盘容量为256GB,据知情人士爆料采用了联芸的主控,其中主控固件版本为H190117B。早在18年中,也就是QLC技术初期,联芸即领先全球第一个推出适配QLC颗粒的固态硬盘主控MAS0902A,展现了超凡的自主研发实力,当时的固件版本为H181007。

笔者推测此款固态硬盘的主控依然为MAS0902系列。其中颗粒部分据知情人士爆料采用了紫光的64层 TLC颗粒——消费级颗粒支持1500次擦写寿命(企业级颗粒支持5000次擦写寿命)充分满足各种寿命需求。

实测性能暂时未知,但结合我爱存储网此前对联芸MAS0902A的测试来看,连续读写性能应该能达到SATA接口的上限,而随机读写性能考虑到紫光公布的TLC NAND Flash的参数和联芸的优化能力,会比QLC颗粒的性能更好,笔者理论推测能达到65,000 IOPS的读取和85,000 IOPS的写入,在SATAIII接口的固态硬盘里,推测其性能可以达到偏高端的水平,再加上联芸的Smart Cache, 支持大容量动态SLC缓存和实时整理, 应该有非常实用的高性能表现。参考阅读:满盘写入不掉速!国产SSD主控神秘算法详解实测.

此前在不同的展会上曾经展示过联芸MAS0902+紫光UNIC 3D TLC的方案,但产品一直在调试中,此次我们直接看到了成品的批量出货,而且出货日期是2019年2月份,这说明研发调试工作已经圆满成功。从紫光存储以往的型号命名规则来推测此次量产的S5170-256应该为消费级产品。

值得一提的是,“紫光”集团有较多的子公司,但此次具体出货的公司为“北京紫光存储科技有限公司”应该是紫光集团产业集群中的一个核心布局的企业,成立于2017年08月03日,旗下控/参股了多家子公司。产品主要面向手机、物联网、PC/笔记本电脑、企业数据中心、云计算平台等领域,覆盖消费级到企业级的应用场景。产品形态以NAND颗粒、嵌入式存储(eMCP、UFS、eMMC)、SSD(NVMe和SATAIII)和安全存储(加密U盘)等为主。

从整体布局看,笔者认为 北京紫光存储科技有限公司” 承担着为紫光集团建构下游产业生态链和重任,同时也会大量涉及到横向的资源整合与合作,是紫光集团技术、产品和服务的重要出口。

成品的100%国产化,意味着中国的存储产业已经不再是单个的技术突破,而是产业集群开始运转自如,想想就很兴奋!
Fully self-made domestic solid-state hard disk - Ziguang storage has been mass-produced. This time no longer on the engineering model at the exhibition, but in bulk shipment, with the complete model name (S5170-256), CE and FCC certified finished solid state drive .

The meaning of complete autonomy:
1. The main control chip is autonomous - using the domestically controlled (MAXIO) master.
2. NAND Flash is autonomous – it uses domestically produced particles.
3. Firmware autonomy - also provided by domestically-controlled companies.
4. Production independence - China's domestic manufacturing.
5. Design, technical support and services do not have to rely on imports.
6. It must be used well - to meet the needs of customers' diverse customization.


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US just shot themselves big time in the face/foot. There are 2 developments.

First, Huawei had been advocating a fair, sensible, unified and objective enhanced security standard for 5G networks since at least last year. This is seen to improve, reassure and lessen politicization of 5G network rollout.

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Now apparently German government is leaning toward adapting Huawei's approach to ensuring privacy and security through enhancement of security regulatory requirements and stricter compliance for all network operator and service provider. As more countries take this approach, the US ability to spy and eavesdrop will be severely hampered. I guess no more eavesdropping on German chancellor's, Japanese PM's and other world leader's conversation.

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Moreover, We as consumers are probably going to be the biggest beneficiary.
 
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