KJ-600 carrierborne AEWC thread

Hendrik_2000

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POSTED ON TUESDAY, 22 AUGUST 2017 19:48
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Several recent developments show that studies and development work of a future Chinese carrier-borne airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) continue to progress at the Xi'an Institute of the AVIC Group. These developments follow the rumor that first steel cut of a new CATOBAR (Catapult Assisted Take-Off But Arrested Recovery) aircraft carrier would have taken place at the end of June at the Jiangnan Changxing Shipyard in Shanghai.

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Chinese Carrier-Capable AW&C Aircraft full scale model at CSIC's 701 Institute

Following a patent filed in November 2013 on a new empennage with four different planes (differeing from the one fitted on E-2C Hawkeyes) and following the set up of testing rig to measure impacts on deck in May 2016, the Xi'an aerodynamicists seem to have refined the rear part of the aircraft, including the horizontal empennage (HTP), in relation to the turbulences generated by the propellers.

This information surfaced in a research paper published in January this year by the Chinese research office, specializing in the design of transport aircraft (such as the Y-20 family) and bombers (H-6, HX ...). The paper focuses on the impact of the flow on the longitudinal static stability of the aircraft.

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The research paper published in January


Meanwhile, a fulll scale AEW&C model appeared aboard the "concrete aircraft carrier" of the
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(next to a J-15 carrier-borne fighter jet model).

This land based platform, located near Huangjia Lake in Wuhan is used to test and measure electromagnetic compatibility of the ship. The aircraft carrier test rig which was used for
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(China's first indigenous aircraft carrier) is currently undergoing modifications: The very characteristic ski jump has been removed and the size of the island reduced by almost a third.


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The "concrete aircraft carrier" at 701 Institute in April. Note the two aircraft.

As far as aircraft subsystems are concerned, it is still unclear which of the three main Chinese radar research offices - ECCC 14, ECCC 38 and AVIC 607 - was chosen to supply the active active electronically scanned array (AESA) of the future AEW&C. However, AVIC Jonhon Optronic Technology (Factory 158) appears to be ready to provide cooling components of all kinds for the project.

The products of this AVIC subsidiary have been selected to enter the final of the 2nd edition of the China Aviation Innovation and Entrepreneurship Competition (CAIEC), and AVIC Jonhon has chosen to illustrate its liquid cooling products with the image of an E-2C Hawkeye in the background. The image shows cooling solutions for the control station, the radar, the onboard power ... etc.

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Image by AVIC Jonhon Optronic Technology

Last but not least, it should be noted that a model of nuclear-powered CATOBAR aircraft carrier is being showcased in the new "Navy" hall of the Chinese military museum in Beijing. An AEW&C and some stealth UAVs are present on the flight deck.

Difficult to say today if the exhibit is representative and to what extent, but we nevertheless know that China is not only working on ways to counter carrier strike groups, but is also willing to aquire its own.

If delivery of Type 001A, the second aircraft carrier, to the Chinese navy is expected for Q3 2019 and likely 2023 for the third one (the second one built in China, featuring CATOBAR arrangement with conventional propulsion) nothing is clear regarding a potential nuclear-powered aircraft carrier project, even if such a propulsion system is already being studied.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
an abstract carrier-based AEW, just to show how one could look like, or is this a real model indevelopment?
Nothing abstract about it. As the others above have pointed out its based off images we have see floated around for years and farther more,
I hate to say this as I was hoping for a jet but in that form it looks blatantly E2 inspired to say the least.
 

gelgoog

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The Chinese civilian nuclear industry is likely the first or second best in the world right now. If I was them I would use a design which could easily allow replacing oil boilers with nuclear powerplants with steam turbines. Kind of like the USS John F. Kennedy which could relatively easily be changed to use either power source.
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I think the turboprop on the AEW&C is a good idea because of range and loiter issues. The basic aircraft design could also be used to make a transport aircraft like the USN has the C-2 Greyhound. Logistics matter and because of the Greyhound the USN can resupply troops with fresh food supplies without a port call. It's also faster than a helicopter for emergency evac.
 
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Deino

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There are reports, the KJ-600 made its first taxi test today..... anone heard this too and how likely is this?
 

mys_721tx

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Can anyone translate ....

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"滑稽", funny, comical, ridiculous, or humorous, is the name of that emoticon. On Chinese Internet, it's used as a reaction to something meta or to mark sarcasm like "/s". "[verb] 天下之大 [noun]" is a phrase to exaggerate the verb-noun phrase.

More context is needed to determine what this means. This post alone is just a meme.
 

Jeff Head

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Seems like they are taking their time.

...and they should.

These tpe of aircraft are tremendous force multipliers for any CATOBAR carrier air wing. They want to get it right with as much radar coverage as possible out to great distances, but also enough and strong ECM to help protect themselves and the air space around them. 2-4 aircraft will be tasked with protecting each of these.

I think the PLAN is simply being very careful and seeking to make it as good as possible for whn they introduce it.

The US and other nations will be able to tell a lot about the aircraft and its capabilities once it is in the air and actively looking for any threats...and you can bet that the US will test those capabilities at various altitudes and with varios types of aircraft inluding the stealth aircraft to some degree or another.
 
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