Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

SpicySichuan

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Xinjiang special forces seem to receive the most updated infantry gears.
 

Iron Man

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I was using your own framing of phrase.
And Again I point out that SCAR was intended to be very selective in who got it in the end, it was only after exports that some nations adopted SCAR as there service rifle.
No they are not ultra rare but it's more of a case by case. Not every DMR issued has a longer barrel some are just the Service rifle with a better scope ( M38). others are just a heavy profiled barrel of the same length as the Service. Some are totally unique to the role and as such have no commonality with the main issued rifle like the SVD , PSL , QBU88, L129A1, G28 Rifles that are not there nations Service rifle and are totally custom built for the role.
Almost every DMR issued has a longer barrel than the standard issue service rifle, and this should be seen as the rule rather than the exception. Also, you don't need to have a longer-barreled version of a standard service rifle to have a point about longer barrels and accuracy, since the point wasn't that longer barreled versions of the same rifle are always used for higher precision, but that longer barrels give you higher precision in general.
 

Sunbud

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Please Gents, 3 pages into firearms discussion in a non-fireamrs thread! Please wrap it up or move it elsewhere.
 

Sunbud

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New ballistic helmets, vests and other misc. gears for these border troops...

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I wonder if these soldiers have ballistic inserts in these vests (Type 15 or 06?). They seem very heavy duty but wouldn't really fit for modern warfare without inserts.
 

by78

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I wonder if these soldiers have ballistic inserts in these vests (Type 15 or 06?). They seem very heavy duty but wouldn't really fit for modern warfare without inserts.

They don't appear to have the inserts, which would make the vests bulge more. But finally, ballistic helmets that actually cover the entire forehead and don't look three sizes too big.
 

Sunbud

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Those helmets seem similar to lots of the ACH-like Kevlar helmets but with a camo-cover on it which China mass-manufactures for the world anyway for law enforcement and military applications. There are lots of YouTube videos showing how incapable they are (not just the Chinese ones, just these kind of helmets in general) at stopping any serious round larger than a 9mm. I understand that a large part of helmets is the stop debris, shrapnel and blunt injury..
 
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plawolf

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They don't appear to have the inserts, which would make the vests bulge more. But finally, ballistic helmets that actually cover the entire forehead and don't look three sizes too big.

Inserts are either heavy (steel) or liable to degrade (ceramics), so you would not expect soldiers to be busting those out unless on active deployment.

Creating a space to allow inserts is just a bit of basic tailor work, meaning the costs of having that is minimal, so all military vests are capable of taking inserts. The big question is whether the vest also have Kevlar, or it it’s just purely a plate carrier.

These vests looks like they have Kevlar.

The main disappointment for me is the continued lack of helmet mounts for NODs. Not even for just one or two guys per squad/ platoon.

That means not only are these troops not issued with NODs, they are not expecting to be issued with them anytime soon.

That is the biggest obvious weakness with the PLA’s standard frontline forces, with NODs and other high tech kit apparently almost exclusively reserved for the special forces.

Although with the PLA sporting more special forces than most countries have regular troops, the PLA may well be playing by different rules.

It could be that in the event of a major war, the regulars will work the day shift, while the PLA special forces take over for the night shift.
 
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