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This why naysayers can not compare China's growth to Japan or Germany of the 1980s.

Warren Buffett: China has ‘found a secret sauce for themselves’
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Warren Buffett, known as the “
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” in China, speaks highly of the country’s economic growth and is optimistic about its future.

“What they’ve done in the last 50 or 60 years is a total economic miracle. I never would’ve thought it could’ve happened,” Buffett told Yahoo Finance’s Andy Serwer in Omaha earlier this year. “What I do know is they have found a secret sauce for themselves, just like we found the secret sauce a couple centuries ago.” " style="margin-bottom: 1em;">“What they’ve done in the last 50 or 60 years is a total economic miracle. I never would’ve thought it could’ve happened,” Buffett told Yahoo Finance’s Andy Serwer in Omaha earlier this year. “What I do know is they have found a secret sauce for themselves, just like we found the secret sauce a couple centuries ago.”

Buffett says “countries will do it differently,” referring to the fundamental differences between China and the U.S. politically and economically. China’s state capitalism emphasizes economic growth and social stability, with tight control over domestic politics and information. Since the economic reform in 1978, China has grown at a staggering pace of 9.5% per year and has become the world’s second largest economy. In the past five years, China’s GDP growth has slowed down but still achieved an increase of 6.9% last year, dwarfing America’s 2.3% increase. " style="margin-bottom: 1em;">Buffett says “countries will do it differently,” referring to the fundamental differences between China and the U.S. politically and economically. China’s state capitalism emphasizes economic growth and social stability, with tight control over domestic politics and information. Since the economic reform in 1978, China has grown at a staggering pace of 9.5% per year and has become the world’s second largest economy. In the past five years, China’s GDP growth has slowed down but still achieved an increase of 6.9% last year, dwarfing America’s 2.3% increase.

And Buffett believes China’s growth story is far from over. " style="margin-bottom: 1em;">And Buffett believes China’s growth story is far from over.

“They can have growth in the economy from a lower base that will exceed ours percentage wise for a long time,” he said. “They’re destined for a fine economic future, just like we are.”" style="margin-bottom: 1em;">“They can have growth in the economy from a lower base that will exceed ours percentage wise for a long time,” he said. “They’re destined for a fine economic future, just like we are.”

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according to the London-based Center for Economics and Business Research. Though, Buffett thinks it will take much longer for China to catch up.

“It’s a long way off.” said Buffett. But he acknowledges the potential since China’s population is almost four times greater than the U.S. “The main thing you have to do is unleash the potential of your people”." style="margin-bottom: 1em;">“It’s a long way off.” said Buffett. But he acknowledges the potential since China’s population is almost four times greater than the U.S. “The main thing you have to do is unleash the potential of your people”.

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Charles Munger, vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., speaks at the grand opening of the North American headquarters of Chinese carmaker BYD. (Gerry Images)
Buffett has pocketed some money from China’s economic leap. The only Chinese company Buffett has invested in, via his holding company Berkshire Hathaway, is BYD, a Shenzhen-based battery and electric car maker. The $232 million bet, made in 2008, is now worth about $2.1 billion. " style="margin-bottom: 1em;">Buffett has pocketed some money from China’s economic leap. The only Chinese company Buffett has invested in, via his holding company Berkshire Hathaway, is BYD, a Shenzhen-based battery and electric car maker. The $232 million bet, made in 2008, is now worth about $2.1 billion.

Buffett credits his right-hand man Charlie Munger with that call. Munger is the vice chairman of Berkshire who stands behind the investment and sticks with the company through high and lows. Buffett’s conglomerate hasn’t invested directly in Chinese companies ever since." style="margin-bottom: 1em;">Buffett credits his right-hand man Charlie Munger with that call. Munger is the vice chairman of Berkshire who stands behind the investment and sticks with the company through high and lows. Buffett’s conglomerate hasn’t invested directly in Chinese companies ever since.

“When you got over $100 billion, you’re looking at any big market. We can’t go into tiny markets and really deploy enough capital,” he said. “We want to invest money intelligently. And obviously, big economies and growing economies have the potential.”" style="margin-bottom: 1em;">“When you got over $100 billion, you’re looking at any big market. We can’t go into tiny markets and really deploy enough capital,” he said. “We want to invest money intelligently. And obviously, big economies and growing economies have the potential.”

While trade tensions run high between Beijing and Washington, China’s rise as a superpower is not necessarily a bad thing for the U.S., according to Buffett. “If you postulate two kinds of world’s 50 years from now, and one is where the United States is still doing far better than a good many of the world’s people, or you postulate something where everybody is making a lot of progress, I think you’ve gotta choose the second world,” said Buffett. “We should welcome a more prosperous world, including China.”" style="margin-bottom: 1em;">While trade tensions run high between Beijing and Washington, China’s rise as a superpower is not necessarily a bad thing for the U.S., according to Buffett. “If you postulate two kinds of world’s 50 years from now, and one is where the United States is still doing far better than a good many of the world’s people, or you postulate something where everybody is making a lot of progress, I think you’ve gotta choose the second world,” said Buffett. “We should welcome a more prosperous world, including China.”
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Hendrik_2000

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I completely agree with this statement

But he acknowledges the potential since China’s population is almost four times greater than the U.S. “The main thing you have to do is unleash the potential of your people”.

It is the genius of DXP that he allow chinese people to prosper without the ideological albatross of each according to its own. What he said instead is let some people get rich first. With it he unleash the torrent of pent up enterpreunership that take china where she is today.

But without Mao's political consolidation of China and early year of reform and reconstruction, It is not possible . They lay the ground work and Deng built on it
 
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China to bar people with bad 'social credit' from planes, trains

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Travelers put on a Chinese government social 'blacklist' for violating travel rules or severe credit default now find themselves potentially being banned from taking trains or flights for up to one year, according to new rules which have come into effect as of May 1

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China enhances financial support for small businesses
Xinhua| 2018-05-03 22:09:48
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China is stepping up its support for small and micro businesses by offering new tax cuts and better financial services, officials said Thursday.

Seven new tax policies are expected to save the businesses a total of 60 billion yuan (9.45 billion U.S. dollars) per year, vice finance minister Cheng Lihua said at a press conference.

The reduction will act as an incentive for enterprises in upgrading equipment and improving employee training, as well as encouraging research and development efforts.

Small and micro enterprises play a vital role in driving economic growth, employment and innovation, Cheng said, adding that China has created a framework of favorable policies to lower burdens, spur innovation and support financing.

By eliminating excessive fees, the banking sector saw an increase of 44 billion yuan in revenue concessions in 2017 from a year earlier, Wang Zhaoxing, vice chairman of China's top banking and insurance regulator, said at the press conference.

Banks are prohibited from charging small and micro-businesses fees other than loan interest, the rate of which is stable and declining, Wang said.

"Commercial banks have been asked to weight more of their loans toward small and micro businesses," he said, adding that qualified banking institutions are encouraged to issue financial bonds to these businesses in expanding their financing channels.

Total outstanding loans to small and micro businesses stood at 31.7 trillion yuan by the end of the first quarter this year, up 1.02 trillion yuan from the end of 2017, official data showed.

China is speeding up reforms in the financial sector and focusing on solving the problem of small and micro enterprises finding it tough and expensive to access financing, according to this year's government work report.
 

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But without Mao's political consolidation of China and early year of reform and reconstruction, It is not possible . They lay the ground work and Deng built on it

Aside from Mao's political consolidation, the major achievement from that era is probably 两弹一星. The nuclear weapons allowed China to cut back on conventional military budget, and the satellite jump started China's science and technology sector.
 
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China details CDR rules to woo overseas-listed companies
2018-05-05 10:49 GMT+8
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China’s securities regulator on Friday published draft rules on the issuance of China Depositary Receipts, or CDRs, paving the way for domestic flotation of offshore-listed tech giants and the launch of a cross-broader link of exchanges in Shanghai and London.

The rules on CDRs, modeled after American depositary receipts (ADRs), came days after the Hong Kong stock exchange adopted new rules to broaden its listing regime.

Bourses on the mainland and Hong Kong are targeting the likes of Baidu, Alibaba Group and JD.com by allowing them to list at home via secondary listings.

The rules “lay the foundation for innovative companies to return to the domestic capital markets via the issuance of CDRs,” the China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC) said on its website.

CSRC added that the upcoming Shanghai-London Stock Connect program will allows companies to issue depositary receipts to list on each other’s markets in the initial stage.

The consultation period for the rules will run for a month, according to the official Securities Times, meaning that CSRC could start vetting CDR applications as soon as next month.

The detailed rules came a month after China’s State Council published broad guidelines to support the issuance of CDRs by innovators in areas such as big data, artificial intelligence (AI) and Internet, part of Beijing’s “Made in China 2025” blueprint.

The new rules allow issuance of CDRs in compliance with Chinese securities law, and applicants must have a history of at least three consecutive years of business operation.

Most of the rules are devoted to investor protection, as CSRC vows to prevent “discrimination” against Chinese investors.

The rules require issuers of CDRs, as well as controlling shareholders, to ensure simultaneous information disclosure in China and overseas markets.

Regulators also sought to tackle risks tied to weighted voting rights, and variable interest entities (VIE), a popular structure adopted by overseas-listed Chinese firms.

Under the rules, issuers with weighted voting rights or VIE structures must fully disclose potential risks to Chinese investors, and will be punished for misusing their special voting power.
 
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Bank of China launches clearing, settlement mechanism of Chinese yuan in Pakistan
Xinhua 2018-05-06 00:40:20
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The Bank of China has officially launched its services in Pakistan for clearing and settlement mechanism of Chinese yuan (CNY) for bilateral trade, investment activities, imports, exports and financing transactions, a statement said on Saturday.

The Bank of China (BOC) had already commenced operations through its first branch in Pakistan's southern port city of Karachi in November last year.

Earlier in January, the central bank of Pakistan declared Chinese currency renminbi or yuan as an approved foreign currency for denominating foreign currency transactions in Pakistan, declaring that Chinese yuan is at par with other international currencies such as U.S. dollar, euro and Japanese yen, and other currencies.

The launching ceremony was held in Pakistan's southern port city of Karachi on Friday, which was attended by officials, several chiefs and executives from the banking industry and corporate sector.

Li Tao, country head and CEO of BOC Pakistan Operations, highlighted the global recognition, importance and increasing utilization of Chinese yuan and said that the yuan settlement amount of China's cross-border trade exceeded 4.36 trillion yuan last year.

According to the statement, the BOC serves as yuan clearing bank in France, Australia, Malaysia, Hungary, South Africa, Zambia, the United States and in several other places, occupying 11 seats in 24 clearing banks designated by the People's Bank of China.

Wang Yu, Counsel General of Chinese Consulate in Karachi, said the BOC's operations for yuan will build another financial artery in China's Belt and Road Initiative as well as the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

On the occasion, the BOC's staff introduced yuan products and solutions and vowed to provide prime services to governments, financial institutions, corporates as well as individuals in Pakistan, China and all countries in the world.

Pakistani bankers hoped that yuan clearing and settlement mechanism will boost the transactions, including trade settlement and direct investment with the increasing demand for yuan from enterprises and financial institutions in the two countries.

Deputy Governor of the State Bank of Pakistan Jamil Ahmad hoped that the BOC can provide liquidity in the interbank market and offer different yuan-denominated financial products to cater the need of the financial industry and the business community in Pakistan.

Hussain Lawai, head of the Institute of Bankers Pakistan, believed that the launching of yuan clearing and settlement mechanism can definitely help to enhance the cross-border trade between the two countries and consequently benefit the enterprises and banks of either side.

The yuan clearing and settlement in Pakistan will effectively reduce the exchange rate risk, which will help further reduce transaction costs, enrich investment and financing options, and better meet the needs of enterprises, individuals, and financial institutions, the statement said.

Muneer Kamal, chairman of the board of Pakistan Stock Exchange Limited and director of Engro, called on the Pakistani financial institutions and corporates to grab the chance of yuan and further improve the development of the two countries.
 
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