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Equation

Lieutenant General
The CCP itself, including Xi Jinping, said China has a morality problem and needs to improve it. So, what the heck are you talking about? Take it up with CCP leaders.
Why are you ONLY concentrating on the "morality problem on the CPC" but NOT your favorite religious institution, whom comes with ALL kinds of moral problems from anti LGBT to child molestation? So I think you need to worship a new "god" or something as your guidance for governance and morality.o_O
 
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Blackstone

Brigadier
It's good to see that you admit you're not even going to be "balance" on anything related to the CPC at all.
When it comes to the CCP, I'm more balanced than you, and I reject your claims to the contrary. I've offered several times for adjudication by non-biased third party and you turned it down every time. My guess is it's because you fear losing. I offer it again, do you accept?

I don't get it, you admit there's in imbalance view on China western media and I corrected it, and yet you don't seem to be disappointed about it and trying to paint me as some CPC fan boi?o_O
You are a CPC fanboi because you lack balance on the subject, so it is facts that show the fanboi you are and not my opinion. Your own words convict you, Equation.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
When it comes to the CCP, I'm more balanced than you, so I reject your claim to the contrary. I've offered several times for adjudication by non-biased third party and you turned it down every time. I offer it again, do you accept?


You are a CPC fanboi because you lack balance on the subject, so it is facts that show the fanboi you are and not my opinion. Your own words convict you, Equation.

Your warp thinking and opinion and doesn't have any merits on this debate. You just got caught in your own hatred and foolishness. Therefore you resort to personal flame baiting. That is very dishonorable and NOT very "balance".
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Your warp thinking and opinion and doesn't have any merits on this debate. You just got caught in your own hatred and foolishness. Therefore you resort to personal flame baiting. That is very dishonorable and NOT very "balance".
How about allowing an unbiased third party adjudicate who is more balance when it comes to the CPC, you or I? Same terms as I offered previously, and I'll add one more sweetener for you- if you lose, you agree on a 3-day ban for yourself, and if I lose, I agree to perma ban. How about it, if you're found to be more balanced, than I will never post on SDF again. Now, that's a good deal for you, yes?
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
How about allowing an unbiased third party adjudicate who is more balance when it comes to the CPC, you or I? Same terms as I offered previously, and I'll add one more sweetener for you- if you lose, you agree on a 3-day ban for yourself, and if I lose, I agree to perma ban. How about it, if you're found to be more balanced, than I will never post on SDF again. Now, that's a good deal for you, yes?
How about stop what you've been doing and move on with your life? It's not that hard, don't be afraid that your anti CPC slant is not working.o_O
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Here is another western slant against China that I was referring to that Blackstone likes to ignore.

Chinese media finds a Korea angle to the killing of two Chinese citizens in Pakistan

They are claiming that China's media was trying to put a blame on Korea. When actually it was those worthless religious conversion missions that got them killed.

The article noted that Korea’s Christian aid workers have been kidnapped and killed overseas in the past.

Early media reports described the man and woman as Mandarin teachers. China’s foreign ministry hasn’t publicly identified the slain nationals or confirmed what they were doing in Pakistan, and has said that it is still trying to verify the Islamic State claim. The two were kidnapped in late May. China’s and South Korea’s foreign ministries didn’t respond to queries about the China media reports.

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Blackstone

Brigadier
There are lots of sources from Chinese and Western media. Here's one from Xinhua for your reference.

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BEIJING, Feb. 21 (Xinhua) -- Students of Tsinghua University Primary School in Beijing know all about China's drive to improve its citizens' etiquette as they get used to a new requirement to bow when meeting teachers and parents on campus.

The prestigious school enforced the rule to answer government calls to educate children with a set of moral principles, namely "core socialist values." This doctrine has been encouraged by the Communist Party of China (CPC) since its 18th Party Congress in November 2012, but the campaign has ramped up this week since a renewing address by Chinese President Xi Jinping.

On Monday morning, the first day of the school semester, a ceremony was held in the biting cold of the playground. More than 1,600 students in uniform bowed to teachers simultaneously and the latter responded in kind.

"Core socialist values include patriotism and friendship. We help our children start with bowing, a practice to show respect and one that is valued by our traditional culture," Principal Dou Guimei told local media.

The move epitomized a nationwide campaign to rebuild faith amid concerns that the world's second-largest economy has to some extent lost its moral compass, a price paid for its three-decade economic miracle.

A "moral vacuum" has been perceived in private and public life, exemplified by pervasive money worship and extreme individualism, as well as endless scandals concerning corruption, food safety and environmental pollution.

In addition, a spate of violence and molestation against children, with some cases perpetrated by teachers and public servants, has prompted rounds of soul-searching among the public.

The latest instruction on reclaiming the moral high ground was delivered by Xi, general secretary of the CPC Central Committee, on Monday, when he called for greater efforts to set up a socialist value system with Chinese characteristics in line with a new era.

The 18th Party Congress specified core socialist values as prosperity, democracy, civility, harmony, freedom, equality, justice, the rule of law, patriotism, dedication, integrity and friendship.

In December, the CPC issued a detailed guideline on bolstering these values, ordering them to be incorporated into the school curriculum, urging media to spread moral righteousness and prodding Party members and officials to take the lead in practicing the principles.

The targets of the guideline have sprung into action. For example, TV stations across China have devoted considerably more air time to public service advertisements and broadcasts championing social values. Local governments have moved to reward Good Samaritans to inspire more good deeds.

Moreover, the ruling party has beefed up its anti-corruption campaign, vowing to crack down on both high-ranking and low-level corrupt officials -- "tigers" and "flies," as Xi put it.

In 2013, a total of 31 high-profile officials were investigated by the the CPC Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. And about 182,000 officials were punished by the CPC's discipline inspection agencies nationwide.

While vigorously pitching the core values, the CPC hopes to provide Chinese people with moral support, as part of its efforts to realize the Chinese dream of national rejuvenation and the goal of building "a moderately prosperous society in all respects," said Liu Jingbei, a professor with the China Executive Leadership Academy at Pudong, Shanghai.

Yang Hengjun, a writer and commentator, likened a country without core values to "creatures without souls."

For a giant nation like China, consensus can only be forged if it has a set of core values accepted by both rulers and the public, Yang said in a blog article published in January.

Once serving as the code of conduct in ancient China, Confucian doctrines were denounced a century ago by some intellectuals who regarded the time-honored thoughts as pedantic and outdated.

Anti-Confucius sentiment later climaxed during the Cultural Revolution, and the old sage has never recovered his former glory.

But in fact, nowadays many Chinese people resent widespread vulgar values and welcome specific principles of moral conduct, said Xin Ming, a professor with the Party School of the CPC Central Committee.

However, the CPC would find it extremely difficult to press the whole of society to internalize the values it put forward, as Chinese have embraced diversified thought along with China's economic liberalization that began 35 years ago, warned Zheng Changzhong, an associate professor with Fudan University's School of International Relations and Public Affairs.

"We should be aware that there would be a long, bumpy road from establishing the values to making them adopted by all," Yang said. "And that won't happen overnight."

 

solarz

Brigadier
There are lots of sources from Chinese and Western media. Here's one from Xinhua for your reference.

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I see nothing in that article that says the CPC leadership said there is a moral problem in China. The only reference to a "moral vacuum" is from the author of the article. In other words, an editorial.

Try again.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
I see nothing in that article that says the CPC leadership said there is a moral problem in China. The only reference to a "moral vacuum" is from the author of the article. In other words, an editorial.

Try again.
You know very well articles like Xinhua's don't get published without top leadership approval, and if you don't then you should get yourself educated. Also ask what Xi Jinping's corruption crackdown is all about, if that isn't top leadership recognizing there's a big morality problem. I'm not playing your 'prove it to my satisfaction' games, so if this isn't enough for you, then we'll let reasonable people decide for themselves.
 

solarz

Brigadier
You know very well articles like Xinhua's don't get published without top leadership approval, and if you don't then you should get yourself educated. Also ask what Xi Jinping's corruption crackdown is all about, if that isn't top leadership recognizing there's a big morality problem. I'm not playing your 'prove it to my satisfaction' games, so if this isn't enough for you, then we'll let reasonable people decide for themselves.

No, that's not how it works at all. Xinhua's material is vetted by its editors, not by the CPC leadership. Xinhua is never going to publish anything that criticizes the CPC, but that doesn't mean it speaks for the CPC leadership.

As for Xi's corruption crackdown, corruption is not a failing of morality, it is a failing of institution. Corruption happens not because there is some nebulous "morality problem", but because of concrete institutional flaws such as lack of oversight and enforcement.
 
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