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F-35 Program Office Seeking an Extra $530M to Wrap Up Development
The F-35 joint program office (JPO) will need an additional $530 million to complete development of the joint strike fighter program, it confirmed this week.

While no supplemental funding will be needed for fiscal 2017, the JPO will need to request about $530 million more than planned to pay for developmental flight testing and initial operational test and evaluation (IOT&E) flight tests in fiscal 2018 and 2019, said JPO spokesman Joe DellaVedova.

“Most of this needed funding will come from other F-35 JPO funding sources to minimize the impact on the US services and [Department of Defense] overall budget requirements,” he said. “No additional funding will be required from the international partners.”

The program office outlined the new funding requirement during a recent Defense Acquisition Board meeting, Bloomberg News first reported this week.

Half of the $530 million sum will help cover unforeseen issues such as the 2014 engine fire and this year’s delay in testing 3F software, both of which added to schedule risk and cost, DellaVedova said. About $165 million will pay for new requirements that cropped up over the past few years, and $100 million will cover funding that was removed from the F-35 System Development and Demonstration (SDD) program budget line two years ago.

The JPO predicts it can still finish the SDD phase by the end of 2017, but DellaVedova noted that there is approximately three to four months of risk in the schedule that could bump the end of SDD flight testing to the beginning of 2018.

Arizona Republican John McCain, who chairs the powerful Senate Armed Services Committee, bristled against the news that more funding would be needed to wrap up the SDD program, citing an overrun that could be as much as $1 billion.

“I am extremely disappointed to learn of yet another delay in the completion of the System Development and Demonstration phase of the F-35 Joint Strike Program with an associated cost overrun that may be upwards of $1 billion,” he said in a Nov. 3 letter to Defense Secretary Ash Carter. “This latest setback appears to call into question some of the recent determinations and actions of Department of Defense senior leaders regarding the development of this critical but troubled program. ”

The SASC chairman criticized top Air Force and Pentagon officials for making statements about the cost and schedule of the program that now “seem to be inaccurate.” For instance, F-35 program executive officer Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan testified to the committee this spring that the SDD phase would conclude by the end of 2017.

“General Bogdan recently stated that while the schedule to conclude the development phase of the F-35 may slip, completion of that phase would require no additional funds,” McCain wrote. “What is perhaps most troubling, however, is that other senior Department leaders appear to have foreseen this latest delay and cost overrun."

The Pentagon’s director of operational test and evaluation, Michael Gilmore, had predicted that the F-35’s development would not be completed on time, pushing IOT&E until mid-2018 at the earliest.

“This warning appears to have been quite prescient,” McCain wrote.

McCain then tasked Carter with answering a list of 10 questions about the cost and schedule of the SDD phase, the budgetary impact to other service priorities, and whether this would result in changes to the F-35’s follow-on modernization program.
 
When Air Force Lt. Gen. Chris Bogdan took the reins of the F-35 program in 2012, he gave a September-to-remember speech in which he
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between the Pentagon and the jet’s maker Lockheed Martin “the worst I have ever seen.”

Four years later, relations are better, but they’re being tested once again. After 18 months of negotiations, the Pentagon said Wednesday it was
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a ninth batch of jets, handing Lockheed a $6.1 billion deal for 57 F-35s. All good, right? Wrong.

Six minutes after the Pentagon announced the deal, Lockheed officials decried it. “The definitized contract for [the jets] announced today was not a mutually agreed upon contract, it was a unilateral contract action, which obligates us to perform under standard terms and conditions, and previously agreed-to items. We are disappointed with the decision by the Government to issue a unilateral contract action” on the contract,” it said. “We will continue to execute on the F-35 program and we will evaluate our options and path forward.”

Responded Bogdan:: ”We will continue to negotiate in good faith with industry to keep the F-35 affordable and provide the best possible value for our customers.”

What’s more, this all comes as the Pentagon and Lockheed are simultaneously negotiating a separate deal for almost 100 more jets. Worth noting: the Pentagon has already
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with Pratt & Whitney for engines for both deals.
from (dated November 3, 2016) DOD: Here’s Your F-35 Order. Lockheed: What?
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did the article just outsmarted itself? LOL
How smart is too smart? When
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flew simulated combat missions around Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, their pilots couldn’t see the “enemy” radars on their screens.

Why? The F-35s’
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analyzed data from the airplanes’ various sensors, compared the readings to known threats, and figured out the radars on the training range weren’t real anti-aircraft sites — so the software didn’t even display them. While the software and pilots on older aircraft hadn’t noticed the imperfections and inaccuracies in how the Eglin ranges portrayed the enemy, the F-35s’
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essentially said, “Fake! LOL!” and refused to play.

The Eglin anecdote is just one example of how the F-35 Lightning and its twin-engine older brother, the
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— collectively called fifth-generation fighters — are
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. The sophistication of fifth gen sensors, software, and
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requires the Air Force to overhaul training and network infrastructure. They even challenge longstanding assumptions about
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and who’s in command. If the pilot of a fifth gen jet infiltrating enemy airspace has a clearer picture of the battle than senior officers further back on a vulnerable
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command plane or back at base in
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, why should they be telling him or her what to do?

Information — the sensors to collect it, the software to make sense of it — becomes the critical contribution of 5th gen aircraft, pilots argue, which means you need to evaluate them on different criteria than traditional fighters. “When I first started flying the Raptor, I was enamored with how powerful the airplane was,” said Lt. Col. David Berke, a Marine F-35B pilot who’s also served in Air Force units. “The F-22 is just so fast, (but) the least impressive thing the F-22 is is how powerful it is.”

What matters isn’t the G forces the plane can pull or the Mach number it can hit, Berke argued, but the awareness it can give you of what’s going on. “In the 21st century battlefield, without information, the fastest airplane out there is the first one to die.”

Berke spoke this morning alongside three Air Force pilots at a Capitol Hill event organized by the Air Force Association’s Mitchell Institute. Presiding were Air Force Warfare Center commander Maj. Gen. Glen VanHerck and former Gulf War air commander
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, a frequent contributor to Breaking Defense (and father of one of the pilot panelists).

It was Lt. Col. Scott Gunn, an F-35A pilot based at Eglin, who told the training anecdote. Eglin isn’t some backwater base with inadequate equipment. It’s the crown jewel of Air Force test programs, Gunn said, “but a lot of those precious resources are just not quite enough for what you need in fifth gen.

“A lot of the simulated threat surface-to-air emitters that we have are basically a little radar dish on a stick that’s attached to a computer,” which tells the radar what signals to emit to replicate a threat, Gunn said. “Well, the F-35 sees that and says, ‘nope, that’s not the threat.’ So it ignores it.

“We’re finding we almost have to dumb down the system a little bit to say, ‘all right, well, it’s not exactly the threat, but it’s good enough to display it,'” Gunn said. “If you don’t have something that’s really replicating the threat, you’re not getting the training you need, because the airplane is too smart.”

The sensors on the F-35 and F-22 suck up so much data, in fact, that the communications networks on the aircraft can’t transmit most of it. Compared to the amount of data you have to share, the network connections available to share it make you feel like you’re on an old dial-up modem, Gunn said: The Air Force needs to upgrade the network infrastructure to carry that data across the force.

Once the networks can carry the load, however, you have the potential for what airpower theorists like Deptula call the
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. Just as commercial cloud computing services untether companies from proprietary data centers and let them access their data anywhere (in theory), the combat cloud could untether air warfare from purpose-built command posts — be it AOCs on the ground or AWACS in the air — and let frontline pilots get the vital data in their own cockpits.

“Before…we would need to have the entire intelligence, surveillance, & reconnaissance constellation of aircraft and satellites all working together to get us some information that’s going to be pretty old” by the time they reach the target, Maj. Andrew Stolee, an F-22 pilot, told reporters after the panel. “Now, instead of waiting for all that stuff to be built in at an Air Operation Center somewhere, that information is now being immediately displayed to people that are in aircraft in the AO (Area of Operations) that can immediately apply some sort of effect, either kinetic (e.g. missiles) or non-kinetic (e.g.
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).”

If you rewrite rules of engagement to reflect how fifth gen aircraft can sense, fuse, share, and act on information, Stolee argued, “it enables us to delegate decision-making from much higher levels down to individual cockpits.”

“That’s all because we’re seeing the same picture and able to operate in places others cannot,” Stolee emphasized. Compared to current 4th gen fighters like the F-15, F-16, and F-18, fifth gen planes can get closer to the enemy, maximizing the collection capacity of their sensors, the pilots on the panel said. Then their onboard computers can fuse the data into a coherent picture and their datalinks transmit it to other aircraft — including the fouth gen planes, multiplying their effectiveness.

Currently, “the limitation…on that airplane is me,” said the fourth panelist, F-22 pilot Maj. David Deptula (son of Lt. Gen. Deptula). “It’s the person sitting in the cockpit with the giant color display. (We want to) get to a point that we’re passing information from machine to machine seamlessly.” Then what one aircraft sees will display on other aircrafts’ screens, automatically and at machine speeds, without a human intermediary slowing down the process or garbling the information.

“The kind of ubiquitous and seamless sharing of information (among) fifth generation aircraft like the F-22 and F-35…could at some point render a new paradigm for the command and control of military forces,” the elder Deptula told me. “This new paradigm sees an evolution of the (Air Force) command and control tenet of ‘centralized control—decentralized execution, to ‘centralized command—distributed control—decentralized execution.'”

“Separate aircraft dedicated to command and control (e.g. AWACS) will become less necessary,” Deptula said, “(as) information from all aircraft, ships, spacecraft, land sensors, etc. is integrated.”

Instead of any one aircraft or command post, the fulcrum of the force becomes the network itself — and the
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that, hopefully, make sense of the data for us. (This “
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” is central to the Pentagon’s high-tech
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). Instead of America’s advantage lying in any one aircraft, it would reside in the whole force — a complex system that, hopefully our adversaries will find
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than our planes.
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remember
Sep 24, 2016
... F-35A Catches Fire at Mountain Home Air Force Base
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have you heard anything about it since then?

anyway (dated Nov 07, 2016) Marine Corps F-35 Caught Fire During Training Flight
The
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is investigating after an F-35B Joint Strike Fighter based out of
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, recently caught fire in mid-air, Military.com has learned.

The incident happened Oct. 27 at Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501, a fleet replacement squadron for the Marine Corps consisting of 20
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aircraft. One of the aircraft experienced a fire in the weapons bay while conducting a training mission over Beaufort, 1st Lt. John Roberts, a spokesman for 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, told Military.com.

"The aircraft landed safely and there were no injuries sustained," he said. "An investigation is ongoing and we will provide updates as they are available."

No estimate of damage caused by the fire was available. The incident was listed by the Naval Safety Center as a Class A mishap, meaning damage totalled $2 million or more on the $100 million aircraft.

The squadron didn't observe any kind of grounding or operational pause as a result of the mishap, Roberts said.

The F-35 program has suffered several setbacks due to aircraft catching fire, though previous incidents involved the Air Force's
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conventional take-off and landing variant.

In June 2014, an F-35A
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upon takeoff at
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, Florida, prompting the Defense Department to ground the entire F-35 fleet as it investigated the incident. This move forced the Marine Corps to postpone what was to have been the F-35B's international debut at the Farnborough International Airshow that summer.

The damage to the aircraft in that incident came to more than $50 million and was determined to have been caused by a rotor arm that detached and came through the aircraft's upper fuselage, cutting fuel and hydraulic lines in its trajectory.

More recently, in September, an F-35A from the 61st Fighter Squadron
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in the aft section of the aircraft after its engine was started, forcing the pilot to exit the aircraft.

In an unrelated issue, the
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grounded 15 F-35As the same month due to failing coolant tube insulation.

For the Marine Corps, this incident comes at a crucial time for the aircraft, as the first operational F-35B squadron, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121,
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to forward-base from Yuma, Arizona to Japan in January, ahead of a sea deployment in the Pacific early the following year. The aircraft is now completing its third and final round of at-sea developmental tests aboard the
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USS America off the coast of San Diego, and is expected to complete them later this month.
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remember
Sep 24, 2016
?
have you heard anything about it since then?

anyway (dated Nov 07, 2016) Marine Corps F-35 Caught Fire During Training Flight
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No, we haven't heard a thing, but we will when they have the source isolated. As to this latest incident, it appears to be in the weapons bay, likely unrelated to the engine fires. With nearly 200 aircraft, the F-35 is being fielded, and these issues will "crop up", they are a part and parcel of fielding a new aircraft, but they are expensive on these very expensive aircraft.

The fact that there is NO grounding tells me they feel this is an isolated incident, and that they have a preliminary understanding of the system where the issue developed.
 
nobody posted about Australia so far so I did :)
common for me it's tomorrow :) in Australia and yet nobody posted
Australia wins F-35 maintenance contract
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UK chosen as a global F-35 repair hub

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The F-35 maintenance programme will generate millions of pounds and support thousands of jobs in North Wales.
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US DoD contracts global support for F-35
Australia, the Netherlands and the UK will be the first nations to establish global repair hubs outside the USA to support the Lockheed Martin F-35 as it begins to ramp up overseas operations.

Maintenance, repair, overhaul and upgrades for the period 2021-2025 will be carried out in these countries, which will together be responsible for 65 of a possible 774 repairable elements of the F-35, says the US Department of Defense.

The DoD has assigned 48 of the first 65 components to the UK, 14 to the Netherlands, and three to Australia, collectively providing some 8% of the total sustainment work.

As the programme steadily builds over this initial period, the DoD believes that one global hub for each component will be sufficient for the expected demand. However, as the roll-out of the type and subsequent operations increases beyond 2025, regional hubs in Europe and Asia-Pacific will have to be established to deal with this demand.

From 2025 that requirement in Europe will be satisfied by the UK and the Netherlands, each of which will be responsible for 51 and 14 of the 65 components, respectively.

In the Asia-Pacific, meanwhile, repairs of 64 of the first 65 components will be carried out in Australia during this second period, and one in South Korea.

“This is the first of many opportunities we will have to assign F-35 global sustainment solutions for component repair work,” says F-35 programme executive officer Lt Gen Chris Bogdan.

“As international F-35 deliveries increase and global operations expand, support provided by our international F-35 users becomes increasingly more important. We are grateful for the opportunity to work alongside these nations on a daily basis; this close teamwork enables the US defence department to make well-informed, best-value decisions to shape the F-35 global sustainment posture for decades to come.”

The UK, the largest beneficiary of this initial package, will perform the repairs in North Wales, with the Ministry of Defence foreseeing that some £2 billion ($2.5 billion) of support work could be available over the lifetime of the programme.

This contract covers avionics and aircraft component MRO, to be carried out by the government-owned Defence Electronics and Components Agency, based at MoD Sealand. The repair service is expected to become operational in early 2018.

Companies including BAE Systems, GE Aviation, Martin Baker, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, Rockwell Collins and RUAG and have been allocated work to support the Australian components.
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No, we haven't heard a thing, but we will when they have the source isolated. As to this latest incident, it appears to be in the weapons bay, ...
... it does: F-35B In Training Squadron Experienced Fire In Weapons Bay; Investigation Ongoing
An F-35B Joint Strike Fighter with the Marine Corps’ training squadron experienced a fire in its weapons bay during a training mission on Oct. 27, and the service is still investigating, according to a statement provided to USNI News.

The plane from Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron (VMFAT) 501, Marine Aircraft Group 31, 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing landed safely after the pilot was alerted to the problem, and no injuries were reported.

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yesterday and wrote that the Naval Safety Center has listed the incident as a Class A mishap, which involves $2 million or more in damages.

1st Lt. John Roberts, a spokesman for 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, told USNI News today that the Marine Corps had not yet determined the actual cost of the damage. If it does exceed the $2 million threshold, it would be the first Class A mishap ever for the Marines’ variant of the Joint Strike Fighter.

Roberts told USNI News that “at this point there’s nothing in the works, nothing being planned as far as a fleet wide stand-down or impact on training” for either the training squadron or the rest of the F-35B fleet. The Marine Corps has two operational squadrons, as well as Marines flying operational and developmental test planes. Several organizations are investigating various aspects of the incident, and Roberts could not say how long the investigation might take.

The fire in the Marine Corps variant of the plane comes after the Air Force’s F-35A experienced a string of setbacks. On Sept. 26 a plane at Mountain Home Air Force Base, Idaho, caught fire after the engine was turned on while preparing for a training mission. Earlier in September,
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due to a design flaw involving coolant lines. And in
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Air Force Base
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until the
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The F-35B has progressed faster than its Air Force and Navy counterparts, reaching initial operational capability first last summer and preparing for its first overseas deployment in 2017. When the F-35B fire occurred at Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, S.C., pilots from operational and developmental test units and from the operational squadrons – including the training squadron – were preparing for the
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(LHA-6), which began the very next day.

The Marine Corps has not announced any groundings or other fleet-wide actions as a result of the Oct. 27 fire.
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Edwards F-16 tests Joint Strike Missile

The US Air Force’s 416th Flight Test Squadron at Edwards Air Force Base, California is continuing development of the Joint Strike Missile, intended to arm the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.

A recent photo release from Edwards confirmed that a developmental test version of the Joint Strike Missile (JSM) was recently launched by a 416th Flight Test Squadron (FLTS) F-16C Fighting Falcon over the Utah Test and Training Range west of Salt Lake City, Utah. According to the caption, the F-16C was flown by a Royal Canadian Air Force pilot, Maj Jameel Janjua.

That last facts highlights the international nature of the JSM program. USAF engineers and test pilots are working together with the Norwegian government and industry personnel in testing the weapon, which is designed to be carried in the F-35A’s internal weapons bay.

‘What we’re doing is conducting risk-mitigation testing with the F-16 before the JSM is integrated on the F-35’, said James Cook, 416th FLTS JSM program manager.

‘I think it’s awesome to be a part of the next-generational fighter while being in a legacy fighter combined test force. I’m excited to see the final outcome, which will be the culmination of all we’ve done here. To see it hit the target and explode the way it was planned to do’, Cook continued.

Reflecting the European heritage of the JSM, the current test program at the 416th is being run as part of the squadron’s European Participating Air Force Program, for which the squadron conducts tests for European F-16 customers when requested.

Development of the JSM was launched by Kongsberg in Norway, and the weapon is designed for both anti-surface warfare and naval fire support missions in open sea, littoral and over-land environments. The missile’s imaging infra-red seeker provides discrimination of land and non-targets via autonomous target recognition.

Raytheon, the US industry partner in the JSM program, describes the missile as ‘a long-distance anti-ship missile designed to take on high-value, heavily defended targets. The long stand-off range ensures that the aircraft and pilots remain out of harm’s way.’

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