F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

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My pleasure :)
Ofc much more difficult with China, for Russia initialy planned 55 for around 2020 but reduced to a operationnal Sqn of 12 as officialy announced plus some others build before.

Yep, actually the Russians are building twelve "test articles" to populate a Test and Evaluation Squardron, this is quite a step away from PAK-FA, and I would imagine the Russians are hoping the Indians step up with some cashola to make this project "MOTATE", or else it won't.???

I believe Deino's source had stated that 6-2, the first of the "-2 upgrade birds had flown this spring" but no photo confirmation on that, as far as I know??? I am supposing the 12 will all be new build -2s, but hey, there are no guarantees on anything with the Russians?

As for the J-20, things are much better than that, and I am expecting another 4 batch built aircraft to emerge soon??? that would pick them up to 16 altogether, the two early prototypes, followed by the LRIP birds? fourteen in number??? that is IF the latest full batch is produced and place in test and evaluation??? The J-20 with no serial number is most likely 2102 that we had been expecting for some time??? so not a lot of "meat on the bone" when it comes to serious progress?
 

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LOL "But the “fluidity of the F-35 program schedule” has seen that milestone pushed back to 2022-23." inside
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one such a bomb approaches quarter of million price-range by the way
I don' t understand where you find it ? and production or Blocks armament matters ?
 

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LOL "But the “fluidity of the F-35 program schedule” has seen that milestone pushed back to 2022-23." inside
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one such a bomb approaches quarter of million price-range by the way

Ok SDB II, GBU-53 in fact more small less big warhead but more accurate about 1 m vs about 5 for SDB I, GBU-39. In more triple guidance system GPS, IR, GPS other only GPS.

We have yet one similar for the Rafale with triple guidance system
SBU-64 Hammer, GPS + inertial-infrared imager (INS / GPS / infrared)
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But expensive mainly for the " little " bad guys we have...:)

The schedule is not surprising for the GBU-53 always for Block 4 as planned but possible a bit later initialy planned 2021 but it is not a problem he have GBU-39 for Block 3F normaly in 2018 allow to F-35 targeted up to 8 objectives, small targets.

Step by step the boy going for get a full panoply, ofc complex programm mainly for electronic and long, others recent Western fighters get weapons load with others upgrades especialy AESA radars in 3 Blocks, Rafale F1 - F3 and Typhoon, Tranche 1 - 3 but on 10+ years for him !
 

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Yep, actually the Russians are building twelve "test articles" to populate a Test and Evaluation Squardron, this is quite a step away from PAK-FA, and I would imagine the Russians are hoping the Indians step up with some cashola to make this project "MOTATE", or else it won't.???

I believe Deino's source had stated that 6-2, the first of the "-2 upgrade birds had flown this spring" but no photo confirmation on that, as far as I know??? I am supposing the 12 will all be new build -2s, but hey, there are no guarantees on anything with the Russians?

OT my feeling and for me make sense they replace with this one in first Su-27 no modernized coz :
Mig-29 is and yet replaced in part by Su-30SM and new Mig-29SMT in more normaly at less a batch of Mig-35.
And Mig-31 remains, all modernized in new BM variant.
 
“prioritizing all the demand for follow-on modernization is going to be a challenge,” Kendall said
oh is it really?

but it's fun for LockMart, getting richer with every "add-on": the Feds will pay LOL! for example for fixing F-35B bomb-bay
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to be able to drop the quarter-of-million bombs, many years after F-35B "became operational" ... but it's less funny for military budges of UK, Norway, ... I guess, anyway:
Kendall Spells out F-35 Concerns for Next US Administration
After the November election, scores of political appointees in the Defense Department will likely lose their jobs as the next US president picks new officials to drive his or her agenda forward.

One constant, however, is the joint strike fighter, and Pentagon top weapons buyer Frank Kendall said his successor will have to grapple with a host of challenges to the F-35 program during the next four years, including the move to full-rate production and first round of block upgrades.

In recent budget cycles, mandated spending caps by Congress have necessitated that the DoD shortchange its overall F-35 buy to fund other priorities, Kendall said. For instance, the Air Force in its 2017 budget request delayed the procurement of five F-35As to a future year.

As the program hurtles toward full-rate production in 2019, that needs to change, Kendall acknowledged. But buying the planned number of F-35s every year will continue to be difficult because of the number of competing acquisition priorities.

“We really want to stop that,” he told reporters following the Common Defense 2016 conference on Wednesday. “Given the [nuclear] triad recapitalization and other things going on, it’s always tempting when you look at your balance sheet to say: 'I can get a lot of money for not doing as many F-35s.' Dollar for dollar, it’s the most combat power we can buy, so we shouldn’t do that. But if you don’t do that, you’re forced to do something else that is very painful.”

Todd Harrison, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, highlighted that problem during a panel on the budget outlook.

"We’re in a zero-sum budget environment, and there's a certain amount of money that they can agree to for defense each year,” he said at the conference. “You'll never know exactly where it will be, but they will agree to that top line, and they have to work within that. So anything new you want to put into the budget is, by definition, coming at the expense of something that was already there."

Beyond fiscal challenges, the F-35 program will also have to move past its final round of testing and into full-rate production. Despite ongoing criticisms from the department’s Office of the Director, Operational Test and Evaluation (DOT&E), Kendall said he expects the program to move forward unless there is “some unforeseen catastrophe” during initial operational test and evaluation.

But DOT&E head Michael Gilmore has remained a staunch critic of the program. Most recently, in an August memo, he slammed the F-35 program for a number of issues, including ongoing software limitations and problems with weapon integration.

Asked about the recent criticisms, Kendall responded that the report noted “known deficiencies” that the Joint Program Office (JPO) is already addressing.

“We’re getting lots of positive response from the operators on the platform. We will learn from OTE,” he said. “We will take that into account and we’ll make some adjustments as we need to. I don’t see that as a major decision point for what we do."

Another potential stumbling block is the F-35 Block 4 modernization program, which will add new weapons and capabilities to the aircraft. Here, a new administration could face a political challenge from Congress, which has been skeptical about the DoD's desire to keep the upgrades within the overall F-35 program. Some lawmakers say that classifying the modernization effort, valued by the JPO at $3.8 billion to $4.8 billion, as a major defense acquisition program could help facilitate congressional oversight.

The F-35 JPO and services are already working on a plan to begin the upgrades, but “prioritizing all the demand for follow-on modernization is going to be a challenge,” Kendall said. “We have all the partners who want to put their weapons on it, for example, and it’s really a question of capacity and what we can do within the funding limitations we’re going to have."

Kendall also confirmed that negotiations on low-rate initial production (LRIP) contracts 9 and 10 of the jet are ongoing. After several years of steady contract pricing, these negotiations have dragged on long enough that the Pentagon had to issue a $1 billion undefinitized contract action (UCA) to Lockheed to cover costs.

Defense News reported last month that a second UCA was expected to cover LRIP 10, something Kendall confirmed to reporters today. He did not, however, say the size of that contract.

As to why this negotiation has dragged on, Kendall indicated his belief it is simply for "the obvious reason — we're trying to get the best deal we can for the government, for the taxpayer. We think we can do better than we’ve been able to agree to. … It’s a negotiation."

Asked directly if he believed Lockheed was trying to run out the clock on the administration to get a better price, Kendall simply said: "I’m not going to speculate about that."
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“prioritizing all the demand for follow-on modernization is going to be a challenge,” Kendall said
oh is it really?

but it's fun for LockMart, getting richer with every "add-on": the Feds will pay LOL! for example for fixing F-35B bomb-bay
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to be able to drop the quarter-of-million bombs, many years after F-35B "became operational" ... but it's less funny for military budges of UK, Norway, ... I guess, anyway:
Kendall Spells out F-35 Concerns for Next US Administration
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o_O

fixing F-35B bomb-bay
Yet no problem for A/C each weap. bay can host 4 GBU, planned for Block 3F, coz she is more long without the Lift fan the B have and he can host weapons which do to max 3.85 m vs 4.2 m for others, same max weapons diameter for both 64 cm

They need get more room in the weapons bay, a matter for few cms the rack is not a problem take less space than bombs.
I don' t think possible change the size but get more room by modifying, wiring etc...
GBU-39-SDB-I rack.jpg


For GBU-39 or 53 do same size do 1.8 x 0.19 m.


But seems before modifs the B can host with Block 3F/2018 3 GBU-39, GBU-53 planned for Block 4.

Upgrades are to allow each weapons bay to carry four
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(SDB) for A and C models, or three in F-35B.
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Another option is four
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in each bay on all F-35 variants.
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The F-35A has been outfitted with four SDB II bombs and an AMRAAM missile to test adequate bay door clearance,
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as well as the C-model, but the VTOL F-35B will not be able to carry the required load of four SDB IIs in each weapons bay upon reaching IOC because of weight and dimension constraints; F-35B bay changes are to be incorporated to increase SDB II loadout around 2022 in line with the Block 4 weapons suite
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Naval Today said:
U.S. Marines’ F35B short take-off vertical landing jets will join the Royal Navy’s newest aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth on board when she sets sail for her maiden deployment which is planned for 2021.

This was confirmed by the UK MoD Secretary Michael Fallon following a meeting between him and the U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter in London.

“I can welcome the commitment of the United States to deploying F-35s on the first operational deployment of Queen Elizabeth — the HMS Queen Elizabeth in 2021,” Fallon said at a press conference after the meeting.

Praising the defense forces interoperability between the two nations, Fallon added that he expects, “in the fullness of time”, British F-35s to be welcome on the American carriers.

Another field in which the two countries are deepening their military cooperation is cyber warfare. Carter said that they concluded a “first of a kind” memorandum of understanding to share more information and carry out vital research and development together to advance the two countries’ offensive and defensive cyber capabilities.

Carter further stressed the fact the Brexit would not change the relationship between the two countries when it comes to military, political or economic cooperation.

“The United States respects the decision of the British people on Brexit. And we’re committed to continuing and building upon our broad-ranging military, political and economic cooperation. That’s because Brexit does not change at all all that our countries have to do together,” Carter said.

The U.S. Defense Secretary also praised Britain for its efforts in strengthening the deterrence against Russia, and for keeping its pledge to spend 2 percent of GDP on defense.
Interesting.

By 2021, apparently the UK will not have enough F-35Bs ready for deployment so the US Marines are stepping up to the plate to help.

Remember, the US Marines will be deploying aboard two "carriers" starting next year on the USS Wasp and the USS Essex. So by 2021, they will have four years experience, and plenty of birds operating in such a fashion.
 

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Interesting.

By 2021, apparently the UK will not have enough F-35Bs ready for deployment so the US Marines are stepping up to the plate to help.

Remember, the US Marines will be deploying aboard two "carriers" starting next year on the USS Wasp and the USS Essex. So by 2021, they will have four years experience, and plenty of birds operating in such a fashion.
In 2021 USMC begin have a sufficient number of F-35B and possible CAW with 20 F-35B and 2 helos, a small CV.
 
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