Aircraft Carriers III

FORBIN

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thunderchief
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:)
You are unusual :D

As Jeff actualy definitely busy and no new models :( the real life is the real life..., it is a hobby here ...

I imagine the SEMs will be retired as they are probably high mileage airframes, though by no means completely expired. Not enough time left on the airframes to make export worthwhile and they have been overhauled once already, hence the 'M' (modernised) in the name. Also catapult launches and arrested landings have a long term detrimental effect of fatigue life, witness the USNs problems with having to rebuild the centre barrel (fuselage) of legacy F/A-18A/B/C/Ds. I think it's safe to say the SEMs are headed for museums and scrapyards. Once they are gone, the only wire bridle launched naval aircraft left in service will be the Brazillian Navy's Skyhawks and Trackers.

Posting here seems few guys look French topic :( Mr Popeye yes ;)

Report: The last days of the SEM

There it's finished. Embedded career Modernised Super Etendard of the Navy ended March 16, 2016 off Toulon. The SEM 1, piloted by the commander of the flotilla 17F was catapulted to the orders of the commander of the aircraft carrier "Charles de Gaulle" provided for the occasion of his sword instead of the traditional green flag yellow dogs.

Eight of the SEM 17F boarded for the mission "Arromanche 2", from November 2015 to March 2016. Five aircraft went to the end of operations. A SEM has indeed been damaged during the mission during a landing (The pilot is healthy). His rehabilitation was deemed unnecessary to a few weeks of his withdrawal from active service. Two other aircraft reached the end of their potential, their last flight has been transit to the ground.

Within the Carrier Air Group (EAG), SEM fully participated in the air campaign against Daesh. Crignola Admiral, commander of Battle Group (GAN) announced that the fighter aircraft designed by Dassault realized about a third of the GAE bombing missions. The availability rate of 88% of the SEM was especially valuable for aircraft at end of life.

Pilots, mechanics and crews of the aircraft were moved by the end of the career, but not nostalgic. The shift to the Rafale appears as a highlight as the capabilities of this new generation fighter are increased tenfold compared to SEM. All retain the robustness and reliability of the SEM. Designed for the implementation of the anti-ship missile AM-39 Exocet, SEM is perfectly suited to the low-altitude flight, on the waves, the radar has also been optimized for this mission.

Despite the latter catapult the career of SEM is not yet fully complete. The five aircraft still airworthy joined Landivisiau. Crews of 17F will continue to train until July 12, the official date of withdrawal of the device. This period will include qualify pilots to patrol leader roles and sub patrol leader before processing Rafale.

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Air Force Brat

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now, just to finish for now what I pulled yesterday:

the argument (not mine! if I had had something better to do on that train one year ago, I would've skipped it :) was certain aircraft would be so heavy (assuming enough ordnance/fuel) they would need rather high takeoff speed, and the shorter the deck, the higher acceleration to achieve that takeoff speed
(the argument was related to suggesting either too low ordnance/fuel, or too high force needed, with obvious drawbacks)

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You need to go back and read Mr. Jeff Head's excellent response to your question, I just did, and he nailed it! EMAL's will bring the aircraft up to full speed in a less stressful manner than our current cats, but either way, there is NO PROBLEM getting those aircraft off the deck with a full load. You need to go back and refigure that launch with a 20knt headwind, and a 120 knt leap off the deck. You will be much happier with the numbers, but let me assure you, the NAVY has this dialed in to a T. That's their business, and they have been doing that long before BD POPEYE, JEFF HEAD, or even myself were born, and they will be doing that long after we have depated for Heaven's glorious shore!
 
You need to go back and read Mr. Jeff Head's excellent response to your question, I just did, and he nailed it! EMAL's will bring the aircraft up to full speed in a less stressful manner than our current cats, but either way, there is NO PROBLEM getting those aircraft off the deck with a full load. You need to go back and refigure that launch with a 20knt headwind, and a 120 knt leap off the deck. You will be much happier with the numbers, but let me assure you, the NAVY has this dialed in to a T. That's their business, and they have been doing that long before BD POPEYE, JEFF HEAD, or even myself were born, and they will be doing that long after we have depated for Heaven's glorious shore!
Like for your reassuring words and I hold up my breath until I see numbers of takeoff weights (including fuel/armament), speeds, accelerations and so on
 

navyreco

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Two USMC V-22 Osprey Aircraft Refueled Aboard French Navy LHD Tonnerre
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The French Navy (Marine Nationale) announced that two US Marine Corps V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft conducted a series of "touch and go" and refuelling aboard Mistral class LHD Tonnerre on March 19 2016. While V-22s have been tested with the Mistral class several times to date (they were even officially qualified with the Mistral class last year) it is the first time that a back-to-back refuelling of two Ospreys (with engines running) was performed.

This joint maneuver "is a first for the Tonnerre, very few units have this interoperability capability with this type of aircraft," said Captain Sudrat, commander of the LHD. "Our cooperation with the US Navy is based on a very high level of trust, which today's operations contribute to maintain." He added.

"The Americans made the request for this test and had no anxiety in performing these delicate maneuvers with the LHD" confirmed the Lieutenant de Vaisseau (Captain) in charge of the airwing aboard Tonnerre.
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FORBIN

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New pics for this recent excercise between US and South Korean navies !

15 Ships : 2 Wasp, Dokdo, a San Antonio, a Ticonderoga, a KDX-2, 3 SK LST, seems a KDX-3, a Cheong Ju Repl. ship and 4 others possible carry 7000 troops !

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asif iqbal

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South Korean LST 686 looks good !

Plus second one launched and two more planned

SK needs though atleast another 2-3 or even 4 more LHD

What SK navy needs is a true amphibious assault group which can land men and materials on a beech in a very fast speed

This would mean landing on the Western side of North Korea a reality and would force the North to come out of the deep defence lines and force a counter attack opening them up for a massive air attack

A ARG is a must for South Korea I am Surprised they made only one LHD and then sat down
 

Janiz

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A ARG is a must for South Korea I am Surprised they made only one LHD and then sat down
It's all about money. South Korea might be pretty wealthy on their own but they won't ever have an all out blue water navy capabilities in my opinion because the lion's share of those money will go to army and air force and where they are on the map (the main areas are Yellow Sea and Sea of Japan).
 
very interesting:
John F. Kennedy’s arresting gear system completes first aircraft arrestment
The company that is set to equip the U.S. Navy’s next aircraft carrier, the USS John F. Kennedy (CVN 79), with an arresting gear system on April 1 said its system completed the first aircraft arrestment.

According to General Atomics Electromagnetic Systems, the Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) system conducted the arrestment of an F/A-18E Super Hornet at the Runway Arrested Landing Site (RALS) located at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, in Lakehurst, New Jersey.

Gerneral Atomics explained that the AAG was a turbo-electric system designed for controlled deceleration during aircraft recovery operations on carriers.

Scott Forney, President of GA-EMS, said: “The first aircraft arrestment marks a major milestone in demonstrating AAG performance and capability. This also represents the culmination of many man-hours of design and development efforts, and a definitive step toward bringing this transformational technology into the next phase of testing and optimization.”

“More than 1,200 successful dead load arrestments have been completed at the Jet Car Test Site in Lakehurst, New Jersey,” stated Dean Key, Director, Launch and Recovery Production Programs and AAG Design and Development. “Now, with the arrestment of aircraft, we take an important step in verifying the dynamic controls and system performance as a whole. We’re extremely proud of this accomplishment, and are excited to continue down this path of success as the AAG system undergoes additional aircraft arrestment testing, and demonstration activity.”

AAG is installed aboard Pre-Commissioning Unit Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78), and is scheduled for installation on the future John F. Kennedy (CVN 79), which is currently under construction.

The company’s Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS), which uses electromagnetic technology to launch aircraft from the deck of naval aircraft carriers, is also installed and undergoing dead load testing on CVN 78. In addition to AAG, EMALS is scheduled for installation on CVN 79.
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